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Newbies and Whispers Suggestion

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HI folks, Last night I realised that upon logging in to chat, I was taken directly to the Newbies Club. Great idea if I was a newbie, but alas I am not. When I enquired from a Mod as to why we were in there, I was told that admin put this in place so as to welcome newbies to the chatrooms. However, having given this much thought, I would like to make the following suggestion(s) regarding the chatrooms. When a person registers for the first time on the site, I suggest that for a minimum period of at least 1 month, that when they enter chat, they are restricted to The Newbies Club and also the opporunity of creating their own chatroom. The benefit here as I see it, is that it is the perfect opportunity of new members to learn about Site Rules and if then, they are found to be in breach of the same rules, then their membership can be denied after that month. I would also suggest that when a new member joins, they can only do so on a probational period of the same 1 month, after which if they don't cause trouble, then they can enjoy the full benefits of the site. Finally, while I can understand to some degree, the reasons behind welcoming people in the Newbies Club, I do feel that this decision should have been posted in advance and members given the opporunity to give their opinions. Thank you for listening and I hope these suggestions are taken in the helpful way that they are given. Dar4u
I understand your sentiments Dar, but in restricting new sign-ups to a room you are denying them the opportunity to fully appreciate the site and the people on it. I would wonder if a newbie room would have a particularly lively open chat and, if not, would we then lose some people before they'd actually joined in fully. I don't see the harm in being directed to the newbie room on entering the chat rooms.
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I understand your sentiments Dar, but in restricting new sign-ups to a room you are denying them the opportunity to fully appreciate the site and the people on it. I would wonder if a newbie room would have a particularly lively open chat and, if not, would we then lose some people before they'd actually joined in fully. I don't see the harm in being directed to the newbie room on entering the chat rooms.

My reasons behind the above suggestions are based on that many members are leaving because of constant abuse and annoyance. I would like to think there are ways to weed out these people if you know what I mean.
However, there should be some stipulation at least in a persons membership to ensure that anyone causing grief for people can be removed easily.
Entering the rooms through the 'Newbies Room' may not be a good idea. For one thing when people enter a room they may see someone there they have an intrest in chatting to, so they end up staying in that room, i.e. when 'a' comes in they see and want to chat to 'b' who has earlier came in and saw and wanted to chat to 'c' who has.....and on and on. Last night the newbies room was the busiest. I would suggest a 'lobby' possibly showing a list of who was where, from which chatters would leave for other rooms as soon as possible. On the subject of unwanted whispering, maybe if there was a 'forward whispers option'. At first I thought of a 'forward to mods' option, but as everyones unwanted whispers would go to the already overstretched mods it would make their life a misery. However if there was a forward to 'unwanted whispers bank' that can be reviewed by Admin and the persistent offenders given one warning before expulsion from the site. Also there are a few post on here about people 'copy and pasting' every whisper, even simple 'hi there' or whispers made by mistake. I believe there are very few if any such people on here. I have often whispered by mistake and have never been rebuked, I might get a :grin:longjon or a biggrinlongjon reply. There now, thats it... bangheadMaybe I am talking nonsensebolt
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Entering the rooms through the 'Newbies Room' may not be a good idea.
For one thing when people enter a room they may see someone there they have an intrest in chatting to, so they end up staying in that room, i.e. when 'a' comes in they see and want to chat to 'b' who has earlier came in and saw and wanted to chat to 'c' who has.....and on and on. Last night the newbies room was the busiest.
I would suggest a 'lobby' possibly showing a list of who was where, from which chatters would leave for other rooms as soon as possible.
On the subject of unwanted whispering, maybe if there was a 'forward whispers option'. At first I thought of a 'forward to mods' option, but as everyones unwanted whispers would go to the already overstretched mods it would make their life a misery. However if there was a forward to 'unwanted whispers bank' that can be reviewed by Admin and the persistent offenders given one warning before expulsion from the site.
Also there are a few post on here about people 'copy and pasting' every whisper, even simple 'hi there' or whispers made by mistake. I believe there are very few if any such people on here. I have often whispered by mistake and have never been rebuked, I might get a :grin:longjon or a biggrinlongjon reply.
There now, thats it... bangheadMaybe I am talking nonsensebolt

Very valid points long, we didnt have a problem been sent in the newbie room but as you said it was very busy and there where ppl in it we could have chatted to all night, which doesnt help with the room filling up and the other rooms not been used as they should be. A lobby is the best idea any one has came up with so far as many sites have this function and it eases the build up of chatters in other rooms.
The Pests do need to be dealt with as we got sick of been whispered last night in chat without been asked.
:upset::upset:Raven... I am truly sorry for whispering to you last night....honest...honest:giggle: Please dont :kick: me like you used tobolt
oh long i enjoy your durty whipsers.. nah i wont :kick: you again but i might:doggy: you:haha:
LB you can join in.. we love a good four some lol
It is you naughty naughty minx lol
you would be feeling something alright if we got our hands on you lol. Well we are keeping to the thread kinda..making durty suggestions to a very sexy minx lol
I would suggest that you come up to us for an evening of fun and frolics and all the cumming you can handle lol
innocentcan I come too...I bring my vibrating arm
:lick:Oh yes long you are both very very welcomepassionkiss
Trollups the lot of ye! Hehe. . Meanwhile getting back too Dar4's post! The site is changing and us longterm members have to go with the flow. So just sit back and enjoy. Louth x x
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oohhhhhhhhh raven....suggest away!!!
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i agree happy.....we are trollups!!
seriously though....'times they are a changing..'
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Oh Happy you know us so well lol
And yes we must go with the flow!! :twisted: now wheres my bucket to catch all that lovely flow :haha:
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I just think the new rooms need a bit of getting use to ..you can always room hop lolbolt
Your right playfull we need to hop more, just have to be careful who we hop on lol
Hopping onto someone LB...would want to hop onto the wrong person now would we. But mind you there are a few in some of the chat rooms i wouldt mind hopping on lol
Oh lordy Raven ya minx hehe x
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Hopping onto someone LB...would want to hop onto the wrong person now would we. But mind you there are a few in some of the chat rooms i wouldt mind hopping on lol
I understand your sentiments Dar, but in restricting new sign-ups to a room you are denying them the opportunity to fully appreciate the site and the people on it. I would wonder if a newbie room would have a particularly lively open chat and, if not, would we then lose some people before they'd actually joined in fully. I don't see the harm in being directed to the newbie room on entering the chat rooms.
My reasons behind the above suggestions are based on that many members are leaving because of constant abuse and annoyance. I would like to think there are ways to weed out these people if you know what I mean.
However, there should be some stipulation at least in a persons membership to ensure that anyone causing grief for people can be removed easily.
Dar, I genuinely understand your sentiments as I said. I just dislike the idea of everyone being tarred with the same brush, and blanket restrictions being applied. We did not have this imposed on us when we joined. If we were to look at the issue of the persistent whispers I think you will find that a lower ratio of these people are actually new members.
I also think the newbies room is slightly redundant. At this point all the regular chatters are congregating there to chat with friends. I don't remember the newbies room being particularly busy at any point before it became the default room, which strengthens my point that new sign-ups want to see what the site is all about and not be sectioned to a swing pre-school.
Perhaps rather than imposing a sanction on new sign-ups it could be determined first if they have actually read the AUP. When I signed up I had to provide an email address. An AUP questionnaire could be composed in a multiple choice form and emailed to the proposed sign-up. On successfully completing the questionnaire they could then be given full access to the chat rooms. At least this would ensure that the site rules/ AUP had been read in the first place.
Dar my main point is that abuse is not just being encountered on the chat rooms, it's not just new sign-ups doing this and we need to draw attention to the existing culprits without the site losing either existing or potential new members.
Dar, firstly I’d like to say, this site is run as a business providing a service for CONSENTING ADULTS. A contract is electronically signed to which they must abide by terms and conditions of such. Now granted some members will be considered newbies as in new to the life style, but being adults they are responsible for their own actions and should be treated as having the same rights and obligations as any other member irrelevant of their length of time on site. To disenfranchise new members from the start by curtailing their activities as consenting adults is both unfair and discriminatory. In your reply to midnight your equating the newbies as being responsible for the abuse and cause of members leaving the site, that is a fallacy, as a Mod working in the background I can tell you abuse is not dictated by the length of time a person has been a member for, its down to the nature of that person, we have fabulous newbies and long time members, but abusers fall under both categories, it is not confined to newbies. Finally I’d like to say, what’s the deal with the big deal of a room title. For me it’s the people in the room that make a room and not its title. Personally I don’t care what the room title is as long as I am enjoying the chat and interaction it’s a none issue.
Excellent post midnight :thumbup:
I agree.....Midnights 2 posts say it all... :clap:
Well said Sheri and Midnightchat :thumbup:
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Trollups the lot of ye! Hehe. . Meanwhile getting back too Dar4's post! The site is changing and us longterm members have to go with the flow. So just sit back and enjoy. Louth

I agree with Happy.. Get over it and move on!
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In your reply to midnight your equating the newbies as being responsible for the abuse and cause of members leaving the site, that is a fallacy, as a Mod working in the background I can tell you abuse is not dictated by the length of time a person has been a member for, its down to the nature of that person, we have fabulous newbies and long time members, but abusers fall under both categories, it is not confined to newbies.

Sherri, I am afraid you have totally misrepresented me in the response.
I have never suggested that the "Newbies" are the ones causing the trouble, my suggestions are there so as to ensure that anyone joining the site, would be made well aware of the rules and terms and conditions of membership.
You also stated that this site is about Consenting Adults. Well now, I give no adult the consent to abuse me nor would other genuine members give that kind of consent either. Yet for some reason, when anyone comes on here to make suggestions to make changes, they are shot down.
If a person in everyday life was refered to with such names as "Whore, Slut" etc etc, that would not be tolerated, and there is no reason why the same should be tolerated here either. I am sorry Sherri for using such harsh examples here, but I am afraid serious action needs to be taken by everyone to make this site more friendly and welcoming for its members.
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I understand your sentiments Dar, but in restricting new sign-ups to a room you are denying them the opportunity to fully appreciate the site and the people on it. I would wonder if a newbie room would have a particularly lively open chat and, if not, would we then lose some people before they'd actually joined in fully. I don't see the harm in being directed to the newbie room on entering the chat rooms.

My reasons behind the above suggestions are based on that many members are leaving because of constant abuse and annoyance. I would like to think there are ways to weed out these people if you know what I mean.
However, there should be some stipulation at least in a persons membership to ensure that anyone causing grief for people can be removed easily.
Dar if I did misrepresent you then it seems Im not the only one, both myself and midnight read or got impression from your post that it was aimed at curtailing newbies when they join the site. You go on to explain reason for original post as highlighted , you never once made a distinction that the original post was not aimed at newbie, and do not clarify in your reply to Midnight this is a wrong assumption.
I agree with trying to make people more aware of the rules when joining the site, but feel Midnights suggestion has far better merits to it.I also agree no one consents to being abused, I never implied we did, I mentioned consenting adults in relation to the nature of the site and age of people using it, and as adults being responsible for our own conduct and obligations one of which is not to abuse.
As for shooting down your suggestion, I simply disagreed with it and explained why. Personally I feel this whole shooting down of ideas comment as a bit of a dig at Mods as it only seems to be used when replying to Mods or admin when a disagreement over an idea for the site arises.
I totally agree abusers need to be curtailed,and the kind of name calling you mention is despicable and wont be tolerated. We do our best as Mods and admin, together with members to deal with each situation as it arises, its an ongoing issue, but one which is not just issue for this site, but in fact is far more prevalent on other sites. But this site through the work of everyone is still by far the best swing site for genuine swingers.
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As for shooting down your suggestion, I simply disagreed with it and explained why. Personally I feel this whole shooting down of ideas comment as a bit of a dig at Mods as it only seems to be used when replying to Mods or admin when a disagreement over an idea for the site arises.

Sherri,
I have never at any time taken dig at Mods or indeed Admin. I have always found the Moderators of this site as well as Admin to be most helpful at all times, and for you to suggest otherwise is not fair.
It amazes me when people only read what they want to read on here and then people go off in a rant.
My suggestions on here were ment as a way to ensure that New Members would be educated to the rules and regulations, while at the same time us older members could also benefit from the same.
I posted here in the first place because I was so annoyed that members felt forced to leave here because of constant abuse from members regardless of who they are or whether they are you old or new members.
But again I state so their can be no doubt, I have never taken a stab at the Moderators or Admin here and I am disappointed that you feel that I did.
And also for the record, I do agree with Midnight's posts here too. If the truth be known, we are all singing from the same hymn sheet. We all want the nastiness to end and we all want to do it together.
Dar4 , Sherri . . Time too nip this in the bud? Me of All people to call time, hey! Lets just move on, bring positivity back too this great site. Infact the best swing site. Louth x
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Dar4 , Sherri . . Time too nip this in the bud? Me of All people to call time, hey! Lets just move on, bring positivity back too this great site. Infact the best swing site. Louth x

Yes I agree Happy and I do apologise if I caused any offence to anyone. There was none intended.
Sherri....passionkiss