Alan, what a wonderful treatise on the origins and or reasons for patriarchy.
But the bottom line is it exists in all our social and cultural conventions .
My comment about it having a lot to answer for was its effect in the past and still to this day continuing on our sexual thinking and attitudes .(see longjon changes in sexual thinking over the last 50 years )and virgogirls comment about a younger guy expecting an older woman to be grateful.(if his isnt a patriarchial attitude and stems from the concept of fucker and fuckee what isnt )
To me its best described by that comment of john mcgahern's "women enslave men with their sexual favours " His choice of the word "enslave" is not perhaps the most apt ,( whose complaining ) but this I think is the natural order in the context of woman takes mate (well up until weaning in anyway ) and the social and cultural conventions of patriarchy have been developed by men over millienia to overcome or turn around that gender situation which they didnt like i.e men developed cultural and social conventions so that they may own women and not be subject to them under the natural order.
It has been put forward e.g that one of the main reasons for the continuance of celibracy in the r.c,c is that rome does not want or is affraid of its clergy being "seduced" (in the broader context ) by a woman & therfore being more answerable to that woman than head office (the other reason was to do with property rights on death and inheritance.)
One theory abut its origin is that it goes back to our ape days when we didnt even have the mental faculties to understand procreation and the male through jealousy of the female who owned babies decided that he was going to own both .
In anyway all to boring stuff ,& sorry for going on
more importantly I think the thread should be about our sexual attitudes as a result of the social and cultural conventions of patriarchy wherever it came from and the sexual illusions and deprivations it has society living example
it is patriarchy that says a man takes a wife , and she takes his name .(and 100 years ago she had no rights so that he could totally own her )
it is patriarchy that says the sheikh has a harem but any of the harem cannot have multiple sheikhs .and outside marriage cannot even have a libido or she gets stoned or her hands cut off (western society was the same up to not so long ago )
It is patriarchy that dictates how a woman should behave/dress/express herself sexually or not etc so that she is always an encumbent of the man.
it is patriarchy that develped the concept of fucker and fuckee, the we will when I want it male and the male that thinks that he's the one who chats up etc and the female that waits till she's asked.
It has a lot to answer for.
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stop shaving under your arms and you won't even have to say it ,
BUT I never said "don't stop washing" because if you do there will be no point in even screaming out "I am now sexually ready " because we all will be running a mile.
Oh, & if you dont like fish (or cheese ) which I dont particulatrly well not the mature type in anyway, best thing is to change his/her diet .What goes in must come out
J....s, what am I dealing with .Smell/fresh body odour is a primary arouser. One of the reasons the hair is there(under arms especially) is to hold that fresh body smell. IT and genetalia secretion smells are more erotic than taste.(if you practise using your senses ).And you need the smell part to get you to the tasting part , Take away the hair and your trying to get or give a turn on using Deordorants or f....g Brut or something full of cats or goats gland hung up on pure visual presentation and your cooking like escoffier .
Is not escapism running away from or not facing reality ,or the pain reality is causing.I imagine if i use the pleasure or joys swinging to take away the pain of whats going on in my life then its a form of escapism,, if i am facing up to life and use swinging for the pleasure it brings then its pure enjoyment
LOngjon, forgot to say " changes in sexual thinking ? over the past fifty years?". Nothing about this is new .I think We are only getting back to normal after whatever ?? The dark ages?/late victorian? early 20th century ? periods of prudishness .How long is the kama sutra in existance. Patriarchy has a lot to answer for . Now there's a thread ?? anybody want to go into .
we seem to be getting into different threads.(but as an oldie goldie newbie I like this forum stuff)
Virgogirl, any guy young or old who thinks you or any woman should be grateful for sharing with him, I think should be banished to at home with the sunday dinner or jar of liver like Phillip Roth's Portnoy.
LONGJON, don't you rememeber the "free love" that went with the flower power & bell bottoms ( I'll never forget a hippy wedding in courttown PRE 1970)
There was a blue moon 2 nights ago (for real ) but thats not the reason I as an over 50 still want, (have the same horny urges) and enjoy fun .What matures with age is not the person but the type of my age preference is really my fun preference.
Anybody for "over 5o fun ?". how about 'S for a PC name ,
but as someone else says whats in a label ?
Younger fun i've had before "been there done that " and as the fun matures Perhaps it's something for the nubile nymphs and neds to aspire towards rather than scorn at .
will you ever know till you get there or try it
Nice thread Alan , it gives me hope joining here and as they say "hope springs eternal in the human groin" or a good cock/clit always rises to the occasion.
and thats really what it's about isn't it? rising to the occasion
want to add to this. Maybe should have started new thread , BUT
trying to upload photos so I do all the right things ;-take my clothes off, stand on my head , prop camera , use self timer , take the advice from site help forum re "paint, jpg etc " but they still won't load .
The only thing that's "loading" up is MOI looking at my own photos Is this normal ? never experienced it before, then never viewed my own body like this before.
Hi,
I'm new here and like what i see for the past WEE while browsing .
I'M a genuine 50 something9not a closet peeper or whatever ) who doesnt want it to be over before I get a chance to share and experience sexual pleasure with open and honest like minded people.
Seems like great genuine people with the same interests as mine , AND honest about it , what breath of fresh air .
Not an IT wizard so will take a little while to get to know how to use "system "
I am in Dublin as often as W'ford.
anyone wants to write to me I welcome an exchange of whatever
will struggle with loading photos over the next few days .
which is prefered ?with or without clothes
don't see the point in advertising my cock(but can do just to prove I have one ) because if we ever get down to it it's going to be a lot more than that , that will make it the pleasurable experience it will and should be.
Hi,
I'm a newbie too .its the technology thats going to get me (chat rooms ? video chat rooms ? etc ).Think I can manage the sex alright if I ever meet up with anyone LOL. .Terminology too. Am I straight or BI ?Outwardly straight , but had 1 or 2 male mutual masturbating encounters along the way which i enjoyed , which makes me think we are all a little bi if we let ourselves enjoy and admit it
