MIDS was your jacket under the window by any chance , to the right of where shelly and katie were sitting ??
Chappy you have sumed it up in a nutshell ....
Door charge for a non-private room?
So someone made serious money off this. Hummmm.
MIDS , its going to be a hard one to explain so i ll chat to ya later in the chat room
JACK AND JILL , phewwwwwwwwww was t sure how that was going to go down , and just for the record i m not bitching or blaming anyone just asking questions
FILTH , yeah i agree with what your saying and have to say i agree 100% but look
i m not bitching or blaming just want to know what was the story .
we paid money so can give feedback in a nice way...I just feel that it was a bad choice of venue when so many people were going and Chappys right what was the cover charge for as it was just a public bar ?
i totaly agree j and j but like i said above i think there was a prob with the first place , but in fairness i reckon the tenner was a bit much for telling us " we ll be down the pub from eight on guys ok " lol :P and was that a tenner per head or was it a tenner for single and same for couple ??
All the bar staff were rude and not very happy in their jobs.... and the fact that there was no heineken on offer was a disappointment for mr. fruity.... venue was not ideal.... cover charge.... what was that about.... we got there late ( )and did not realise there was one....but lots of people were complaining at the 20 euro's for a cpl.... and i didn't see any finger food..... did the staff know it was a swinger event.... was that the reason for being so rude.... maybe if they were given a share of the door money they would have cheered up!!! lol
other than that it was a lovely evening catching up with old friends and making some new ones......
My Thoughts for what its worth.
Firstly for those who know me a long time here I used to be part of the 'swingmeets' group and know exactly the kind of headaches and hard work that go into a meet and greet and have no issues in saying the folks that go to the effort of organising these thing have many moments of hair pulling and most times on the night itself don't get to enjoy the fruits of they're labours between making sure everything goes swimmingly amongst other things.
True I was a bit taken aback by the venue when we arrived there, as I was sure it was a closed venue (One of the reasons I took my swinging boots down from the shelf in the first place) But after speaking with the host and knowing only too well how these things have to be chopped and changed at the last minute due to amongst other reasons the fact us as a collective ( swingers that is ) are seldom greeted with any sort of open arms and due to the bad press we get from certain narrow minded elements of the media exactly we are left no choice but to 'Grasp' the shorter end of the proverbial straw, this in being such a case.
Whilst I understand most peoples disappointment re the cover charge, I would have seen it more as an acknowledgement of the organisers efforts than a cover charge.
I want to Thank Ginger for organising the night and my real gripe was there was a noticeable Swing V Fab clannishness (with the exception of those of us who gravitate between the two sites), you could almost draw a perfect line through the crowd in my own opinion.
....But hey what do I know.
Thanks Ginger I had a great time and roll on the next get together, because it is for a sense of community that is needed more than anything else and until there are dedicated swing clubs allowed to prosper in this country without the prying eye's and mis-information of the media and other puritanical elements of society we can but only rely on events such as Saturday to get to meet and socialise with others on the same wavelength as ourselves.
My Bit said.
Titan.
Good afternoon
There seems to be some assumptions being made about the M&G.
Firstly the bar was booked out for us and us alone, there were some left over public from the dinner time from the bar, which was out of my control as they couldn't be thrown out just because we arrived. These people we gone early in the evening and then the whole bar was ours.
To the people that actually paid me thank you, to those that didn't even acknowledge me on the night never mind pay me thanks for coming and I hope you had a good time. I'm sorry that some of you feel that the 10 euro cc was too high but there was no way for me to know if I would get 10 50 a 100 or no one to come to this event.
The location was chosen on its proximity to the original venue that couldn't be used as it was outted before the event and management felt it was too risky to their reputation as a professional establishment if the media got hold of it.
As it was someone tried to sabotage the night early Saturday evening by posting on the bars facebook page about the event and it almost didn't happen at all. Only my negotiating skills and 100% guarantee to the manager that there wouldn't be any fall back on the bar or he was cancelling my booking. He was happy enough that it was a swing event but didn't want media or social network coverage of the event as we all know swinging is still very in Ireland.
I am sorry for the behaviour of the bar man that was abusive, but I am not his boss (if only I was) and can't help if someone is a grumpy aul yoke.
When booking this event I requested finger food to be laid on for people, the cost involved was too high and I couldn't take the financial risk of having to pay for food for an event that might not bring in the revenue required to cover it. Any money that I 'made' will be used to take a risk for any new events.
I spent 3 months working on this event, answering mails daily, ensuring that everyone that was invited was verified and real and not journalists trying to get in to do a big media coverage on us. It is not a small task and I took it on as I love the social aspect of the swing lifestyle. The night was a social night for like minded people to meet and greet. I spent most of the night on the door ensuring that everyone was ok and happy enough.
With these events it is very hard to gauge who will actually show up.
There are the people that torment ya for an invite only to no show or cancel at the last minute, dreamers and people that like the idea of going but are never going to show, all have to be taken in to account. I sent out about 300 invites knowing I wouldn't get even half of that. As it turns out I got more than I anticipated and was delighted with the turn out. It was great to see both of the sites blending together and I didn't think there was a divide, maybe it's just because I know a lot from both sites that I couldn't see any division. Thanks to all of you that have sent me mails wishing me good luck before the event and thanking me for organising the event I really appreciate your kind words.
Happy swinging, Ginger
Ginger,
that is a very fair and understandable response to equally sincere critisms.
I've no doubt about the effort and frustrations in organising the event.
What a shame you lost the original venue..
a entire hotel would have been amazing.
The knock-on rearranging was the best possible in the circumstances.
..and you did manage a very welcoming smile....
Many thanks
Lets put some of "ASSUMPTIONS" to rest.... firstly Ginger we arrived at the venue late as i said and nobody said it was a private party.... we could have been any couple getting out of the taxi outside the door.... there was no checking of anyone entering or leaving( at previous m&g's we have had to verify who we were at the door)
I hope the management did not charge a fee for exclusive use of the pub as this was definitely not the case as mrs. fruity found out to her horror at the bar when she tried to chat up a guy whom she liked.... turned out he had nothing to do with the venue and was there with some vanilla friends.
We did not know a cover charge existed as we did not meet you or any other organisers on the night, but when we heard it at first we thought our friends were taking the pee.... but then we heard it from a few others and we realised then that it must be true.... now i have no problem with paying a cover charge providing i'm getting a service.... ie. some finger food/ soft drinks/entertainment/or an exclusive venue, 10 euro's per person i feel was a little strong considering none of the above were offered.... and i can understand your view on not taking a risk on the food but why then charge a full ten euro.... why not charge a fiver per head if you felt you needed paying for your time and effort in organising the event... as i say it did not affect us personally but we heard quiet a few complain on the night.
I also understand the managers concern regarding some idiot posting on their Facebook website, but knowing that now is probably why the staff looked at us with such disdain.... we are swingers after all, that does not make us tramps.... again at other m&g's the bar staff knew nothing of the fact that it was a swingers do but the doormen did and i found it much better all round.... who's to say the nice barman won't phone the sun with a juicy story and some nice images taken from his cctv!!!!
Finally Ginger i want to point out that i am not finding fault or nagging for no reason.... take it as constructive criticism as that was the word on the ground that night.... We enjoyed our night and made the most of it.... yes it could have been better yes the venue was not ideal yes the staff were idiots....and yes we did not get to meet you, but thank you for your effort in creating the event and i'm sure there is a lot more work involved than most on here will never realise and we look forward to your next event and i hope it grows to be bigger and better as experience is a great teacher!!
as to the meet, Ginger thanks very much I know how much trouble it is to organize such a large gathering and for that I am very grateful as to bar staff etc etc hey there's not a lot anyone can do lol. I'm very glad you went to the trouble of holding the meet and also inviting us, from my point of view eve though M couldn't make it with me I was happy to pay for her as the onus is on us to make it and not you to take a hit.
May there be many more.
B & M
Hi Ginger
myself and mr v Would just like to say thanks for the Invite, we had a great time.
lots of craic and we met some really nice, sexy people, so for us it was a fun night, which is exactly what we expect from a M&G. no more no less,
B&J
Outside looking in here...
The venue being changed at the last minute obviously caused a lot of hassle for the organisers and they should be applauded for finding a new venue at short notice. The blame for this should lay at the door of whoever opened their gob on Facebook
The CC has been explained as covering the cost of future events, who here would be willing to go into their own pocket to pay for grub at a swing event that could see 100 people? I'm sure there are very few.
A lot of people are complaining but nobody is offering solution or time to help with future events.
Well done Ginger, I hope you're future events go exactly as you plan
Right folks very rarely i make a comment on forums as i dont feel the need too, to be honest, but i feel i must on this occasion.
right lets be rational and practical about this from the offset
number 1 the venue had to be changed at short notice beyond the host's control ...
number 2 security was of paramount importance to the host as entry was only guaranteed by barcoded invitation .... first time i have seen this being used at any event on swing4
number 3 bar staff ....... having worked in a busy D4 public house for many years on a rugby match day i would say this public house coped well with only 2 bar staff yes they could been more polite but when under pressure we all do the best we can as there was unprecedented numbers at the venue.
number 4 the venue although small was central and close to the original venue as not too inconvenience the attendees which had already booked rooms in local hotels .... on an upside for me "Irislad121" the closeness and warmth lol hotness,sweatyness,and the opppsss sorry can i just squeeze by ..... quick feel ...all consenting by the way lol those of you who i passed lol was a great opportunity to meet new and old friends ..
number 5 the host seemed to gather a great bunch of people a mix for both site's a wide range of sexy,polite,horny people and a wide age range also as i am no spring chicken lol cluck cluck ....
finally i myself do not have the time or energy to organize email sort hotels arrange tickets a venue concessions for night clubs spend hours on the door and added stress to my personal life for the benefit of other peoples pleasures .
I personaly think ginger should be commended and thanked for running a brilliant meet and greet with a high turn out with a hassle free night not only for the time and effort she has taken to bring us as a community together in a safe environment " as safe as can be expected " to meet people of like minds and to help us move away the that is within ireland to our lifestyle .... are we not all open minded here
Irishlad121
Howdy everyone, Im not going to say much here other that I had a great night at the M&G and I think it was just what the site needed and the chat room seems to be more active in the lead up to it and since so it was just the shot in the arm the place needed, so thank you for that Ginger.
On the issue of people reserving places and not turning up therefore leaving the host with the cost of room hire DJ and food might I suggest a paypal arrangement or some other way of charging at the point of registration. I think the site Ginger used for the tickets had a way of charging for the tickets, that way if you are a no show for whatever reason you dont leave the host to carry the cost.
. Now just to keep things some way even , as fair as i know there was a problem with the original venue very close to the date so it was a case of better then nothing .
Second was the charge on the door for the night. What was it for ? food , booking a private room , a fee for organising the night, i m not sure maybe someone can answer that one.
I for one had a great night and enjoyed myself, i was a little disappointed that we did t have a room to ourselves but hey ya make the best with what ya got right :)
In saying that roll on the next one whooop whooop :) 
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Its a short black blazer type, three quarter length sleeves with bright blue lining inside... I left it on one of the radiators under a black leather jacket, its not expensive or anything but if I could find it that would be FAB!
I dont mind coming home with no dignity, but to lose a third coat in the space of 3 weeks is just ridiculous 
Ginger sorry to intrude on your thread 
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All i can say is that i had a great night after i figured out who was who and what was going on, and i think alot , not all but alot of people will be ok after reading your reply miss fire ;) ,
To finish up , was great to see everyone , nice to meet new people , looking forward to the next one , PARTY HEARTY ALL :) WHOOP WHOOP
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Bring it on :) :thrilled::thrilled::thrilled:
the amount of ppl we met new sexy pps and the sexy ones we knew and the more sexy ones we know more intimate :whistling: 
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