Just wondering...
Now more of this site is being accessed by none paying member's it seems that the site is becoming less value for money. Maybe Admin can put up a "P" for Paying members and an "F" for Freeloaders against profile names in chat, so those who pay will know the difference (unless they have extras of course) if this is going to be the norm from now on.
Also would it not have been courteous to inform paying members (afterall thats where s4i make their money) of the changes besides us going into chat and finding ourselves straight into a new lobby named "Novices".
Change is a good, Knowledge is power and Information is liberating.....
Also is the site going to get "Shrep" like it's Sister Site (www.swingingheaven.co.uk) as its a good way to determine the genuine people (Just a thought, for all it may be worth!)
Maybe Admin can answer these questions and also if other members wishes to add to this then please feel free to do so.
Looking forward to all responses.
I'd suggest you read the profiles, if you note the joined date that will most likely answer your question without the necessity of referring to people as 'freeloaders'. I'm stunned by the negativity. New people, new chatters, new swingers........ where's the harm? The new members here do not have the same access as everyone else, Freebie members cannot:
*View cams
*Initiate a whisper
*Move to any other room, including private rooms
*View pics set to adult in profiles or enlarge pics
*Send mail
If you don't wish to be in a room with non-paying members, as paying members you have the facility to change rooms. I think the initiative of providing access on a limited basis to encourage new members to join and stay is of us have enjoyed free proiles ourselves at one stage or another.
There is absolutely no negativity on our behalf Midnight, just airing our views, if we may? It is an open Forum for discussion right?
"F" could also stand for a Free-member in a key to peoples payment status in the chatrooms. Someones join date does not state if they are a full paying member or not. Or is that also a new change thats been brought in???
No the join date does not confirm that they are free members, but at that stage if you wish to initiate contact and seek confirmation from them if they are in fact fully subscribed its a less offensive action than branding profiles with letters. I for one would object to this if it were applied to my profile as my payment arrangement with this site is between me and Admin and no one else.
I absolutely would not dispute your right to air your opinion, but my opinion is that it read in a negative tone especially to any new members who are now signed up and considering committing to the site fully. As members you are absolutely entitled to query the changes, but as Tempt said, céad míle fáilte novices. X
Everyone should have to pay for subcription in my opinion
Jilly, the intention is that the majority of new users will like what they see in chat and join up. As we've said, they have very limited access.
We don't agree with the free trial members either seems a desperate attempt by the owners to get new members but it will have the opposite effect as it will increase the messers and pichunters . We also think it will lead to the chatrooms and people on cam being open to unwelcome comments as the freebies wont care if they are banned . We shall see how things go but would be unlikely to rejoin if the changes are maintained .
Have to agree with tonysue post.....I see now that the room has defaulted to novices for everyone so the onus is now on paying members to go to another rooms....not sure this change has been thought out ...... can admin post on forum to explain the changes out of courtesy....this is NOT resistance or against anyone just an opinion to which were entitled J&J
maybe something should be done about the number of members? 135,050, is not an accurate number. Dormant member profiles need to be deleted. I would say if 1% of that total are active,is even pushing it.
I miss the old site and the craic and banter that used to be found on it, between the forums and chat. Maybe an influx of new members is whats needed to bring this place back to life and get people back into it
What Mids has already posted on page one of this thread !!
I'd suggest you read the profiles, if you note the joined date that will most likely answer your question without the necessity of referring to people as 'freeloaders'. I'm stunned by the negativity. New people, new chatters, new swingers........ where's the harm? The new members here do not have the same access as everyone else, Freebie members cannot:
*View cams
*Initiate a whisper
*Move to any other room, including private rooms
*View pics set to adult in profiles or enlarge pics
*Send mail
If you don't wish to be in a room with non-paying members, as paying members you have the facility to change rooms. I think the initiative of providing access on a limited basis to encourage new members to join and stay is of us have enjoyed free proiles ourselves at one stage or another.
The above still stands,on all points !
I thought the mods had done a pretty good job of clarifying the limitations of what the new members can see, we changed what they were able to do some time back, this was in response to suggestions from members here, it seemed like a good idea so we thought we would give it a try, I can't see any reason to change it back as when I way out the pro's and con's there are more reasons for it to remain as is, however I think your point about saying something before the change is valid.
As to the future, I know some time back we told you that changes are coming, that is still the case, however even with our full team of developers working on the new framework it has taken a lot longer than we would have liked, the good news is that its all ready and is being rolled out, the first deployment was in Canada ( swingingheaven.ca ), a whole lot of testing was carried out and the site is pretty much as we want it now, feel free to go over and join to have a look if you're curious, it is all free at the moment.
Were currently converting our New Zealand site kiwiswingers.co.nz, we decided to do that one before swing4ireland as its quieter and should there be any areas that need fixing we can pick them up there rather than have anything untoward happening here, I can't give time scales for when the changes get rolled out here as we haven't finished converting ready to update the kiwi site yet, but as soon as that's done I'll be able to give target date, my best guess would be 6 to 8 weeks for here.
I don't really see a problem with those that pay having something shown on their profile either, provided that its done in a positive way, but there may be those here that think otherwise, so perhaps if anyone does they'd share their thoughts before we make any changes. On our UK site those with Extras have an Extras badge on their profile, we could do something similar if the feedback is positive, although it would make sense for any changes like that to be rolled out at the same time as the new framework to prevent things slipping further to the right.
Great response admin sheds a good bit of light on things to come.... maybe a vote from site members on the whether to make forum..swing parties section etc private to paying members only and not visble to the public, this might give yous an insight on what people feelings are on this before the changes are rolled out. I appreciate temps point on this that the media think were sex starved and by making it private would feed into that, however I think it wud make meets and partys a little more secure (never going to be 100% risk free) and give party organisers more confidence to continue organising such events. As party hosts... the auto responses that go out like the reserve email could maybe be worded a little differently or perhaps the option to put in our own wording on the auto-responses would be a helpful addition to that great section.
***One big change with the new framework is that all profiles cannot be viewed unless your a member and logged in.***
Delighted that Admin are making this change. Does this mean that public guest viewing the forums will not be able to click on the Avatars of profiles to view them? I hope this is the case.
I'd also like to suggest that when you click on the 'attend' button in the parties section that you can 'opt out' of it showing on your profile. I like to keep my plans to myself as I feel with this on show on my profile it opens the floodgates of "Oh your going to that party" "Where is it?" "Do you need a plus one?" As profiles are public at the moment it's not very discreet having you're attending a party and being able to see some of the party details ie date and general location in the Swinger Parties section which is also public.
I'd also like to suggest that M&G/Socials be given there own section under the Entertainment section along with Swinger Parties. It would be great if M&G/Socials, Swinger Parties were viewable to full paying members only.
Anyways just a few thoughts.
Just curious to know how many of the free trialist's have actually paid up to use the site ?
Our new site is testing at the moment and should be live very very very soon..
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Can Admin not see the exodus to the "other" site???
But then again there is no rush to a bad market 
