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Mona, I stickied this to Keep it at the top of the Forumbiggrin

Well not my single men exactly...but I wanted to get your attention!
This is a thread for the many amazing, gorgeous, funny, witty, intelligent, charming and sexy men out the in the world of swing4ireland who have yet to be discovered!
This is a call to you all to stand up and be counted!!!
Your time has come!
Meet and Greet time is approaching fast and there are many events arranged for the coming months.
I am asking you all to answer a few questions for me.
Before that I want to explain my reason for doing it.
I was at in Cork about 18months ago where myself and 2 other single females were asked to phone.... email and go online to try and find single men to attend the meet and greet.
That evening although great craic, was marred by the fact that for the 20+ single females there were there, only 2, yes 2 single men turned up!!!!! Eventhough there were over 20 more invited!
Again at a recent meet and greet it was men who were by far the culprits for no shows.
Guys....I am not trying to bash you....I think you all are fab but can you please tell us why you dont show up at the meet and greets that you ask to attend.
If there is a reason why so many simply chicken out, I believe the meet organisers would benefit from finding out what it is.
Is it that you are nervous and feel you wont compare to the more experinced male members who will be there?
Is it you dont think you will be successful in possibly creating contacts from attending???
Is it that that you actually feel a little nervous being round what may appear to be the more sexual confident and somewhat aggressive female??? (aggressive not meant in bad way here)
What can be done for either the shy guys who would love attend but are too nervous when it comes down to it and also what can be done for those who think that since its not some mad orgy that it isnt worth their while going.
We were all nervous newbies once....all of us had to take the first step.....I for one havent looked back.
Noone there will care what you look like.....there is the largest varity of body types you will probably find in the same place at once.
Noone there will think any the less of you if you havent met anyone off the site, in fact we will probably think you are great for taking the step of attending.
Yes, In the chat room a lot of people know each other...and you know from where???.......the meet and greets!!!!!
You'll find in the days after a meet we are saying in room....ack hello .....so you were the guy that was....etc.......how you enjoy it? etc
There is a number of meets arranged for the coming months and I for one would like to see you single guys attending.
The night is like a night out in your local except everyone there has one thing in common to start with. And hey.....you will at least have one thing in common with the girl/guy or indeed both.....who catch your eye.
Mona an excellented and well thought out post, I look forward to reading the replies, and also hope this encourages the guys to take that step and come join us at the meet and greets.
Brilliant Post Desdemona!
I would like to reassure the folks planning to attend their first Meet-And-Greet soon that:
a] we don't eat the Newbies at their first event - not all in one sitting; :giggle:
b] these events are a great social occasion where friends meet - sometimes for the first time, but very rarely the last time;
c] none of us have "Swinger" tattooed across our foreheads - so we don't stand out from the rest of the patrons of the bar/club/hotel etc;
d] if you plan to arrive early - you will be eased into the event slowly by the Organisers - rather than have to face walking into a very busy room full of folks already fraternising;
e] if you go easy on the alcohol and pace yourself - the worse sort of embarrassments can be avoided;
f] you should expect nothing more than a pleasant night out with charming company and then you will never be disappointed.
Above all, have an open mind and a sense of humour and you will have a brilliant time and who knows - make some great connections .. .. ..
Marie
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FirstFridays-club/Marie's Meets
Cork's monthly meeting club for adults who love music, dancing and socialising
hi mona well said hunni haveing meet as a cpl and a single fem i have meet lots of new friends and hope to make a lot more if they come too the meets and greets . i think it is great way of putting faces to the addys xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx suzie
This is a thread for the many amazing, gorgeous, funny, witty, intelligent, charming and sexy men out the in the world of swing4ireland who have yet to be discovered! Great post Desdemona! Amazing? (well, I do try):hunk: Gorgeous? (emmm...) Funny? (ha ha ha ha...no):dry: Witty? (more pity then witty):uhoh: Intelligent? (Intelliwhat?):-? Charming and sexy? (on this site? are you sure?) I haven't asked to attend any meet & greets as yet so maybe my thoughts aren't really valid. Here are a couple of things that might affect my thinking tho. How would you identify fellow site members? You can hardly walk up to what is essentially a total stranger and say : Hi, I'm Slowhands, you must be Desdemona or Sherri or XXX. What if you have the wrong person? (Having said that, can't really expect site members to wear name tags either!) What should you talk about? Boring chatter about the weather or the journey to the meet? Would that be irritating to an established swinger? So what's the alternative, start flirting straight away? I think what effects a lot of the young guys on this site is nerves, and taking the huge step of revealing yourself in public. Speaking for myself, I can't walk up to a girl in a pub and talk to her (even with drink on board :cheerssmile, let alone “sexually confident” swingers. Ok, laugh at the nervous new guy if you must, but I think it's a sad reflection on the Irish dating scene. Us guys rarely approach the people we fancy in a confident manner, instead falling back on drunken fumblings. Going from that to actually showing your face at a meet and greet and thereby identifying to yourself and everyone else you are a swinger? Frankly I've been astonished at the number of males, females and couples who have revealed their faces on this site, either through pictures or webcams. Where do you get the balls to do that?:scared: There's a huge volume of people passing through this site (and at the meet and greets) that never become established members of the community, who don't become trusted fellow swingers, and you show your face to them? Maybe some of the more experienced site members could post about their first meet & greet experience and how it went? I would also be interested to hear if any of the established members have ever been recognised/identified as a swinger. I know there's an argument that if anybody recognises you it's because they have been on this site too, but surely, sooner or later, rumours leak out into the wider community where you live?
Slow hand...thank you for your honesty in your post. I thought i might share my first experience of a meet and greet. I went to it on my own, not knowing anyone, I;d spoken to one person who was attending on the phone but other than that i only knew the meet organisers from seeing them on cam. When I went in I stood back for ages trying to figure out who was part of the meet and who was in the bar for a normal saturday afternoon. Bare in mind I'd arrived early. then the organiser came over and took me over to a group of them all chatting and introduced me to them and vice versa. I then sat with a few of them for a while and we chatted politely. Later that evening when i;d plucked the courage to leave my hotel room I went into the venue on my own and stood by the bar. People know me now and being really chatty but i wasnt always. I chatted to a few people that evening about this and that....journey to get there...how long theyd been on the site.......anything really. It was in the days and weeks after that i got chatting in the chatroom to people who had also been there and in turn arranged to meet them either for fun or as coffee buddies. My next meet I knew more people...the one after even more....and so it went. Dont worry about what to say, most of us are a friendly bunch and will talk the hind legs of a donkey. As for knowing who is part of the meeet and greet and who is not....well the organisers usually reserve an area solely for their use or a function room too. At a meet and greet I was at before xmas the organisers put tiny heart stickers on people so we all knew that everyone with a sticker was on s4i. I will also add that at my first meet and greet I bumped into a friend of my sister in laws.......so these things can happen.....but sure they were there for the same reason. As for the meet and greet venue getting out and your presence at it being made public....that is why the venue and lists are keep secret and only those on the list can attend. All I can say is....put your namedown.....go for a while....give it an hour or two.....as marie says....arrive as early as you can.....and meet the organisers.....chat to a few others about being nervous....we've all been there....and we;ve come out the other side of it too...... unharmed.....lol
Great Post Mona, and the first Time I met you if I recallbiggrin As a guy thats been here a while now and I have attended a few meet and greets and numerous parties( all from the back of one meet and greet I may add...bit of a domino effect) I'm On the scene about 10 years now on and off, I was on the UK scene when I lived there and to be honest its a very different scene from here /..well bar the sex of course, but less digression, I was reasonably established on the local scene where I was living and through the grace of meeting a great cpl they introduced me to all the friends I made over there. Fast forward to this time back in 2008 and I was contemplating returning to the scene after a while away from it, I realized fairly quickly I was starting from square one despite my experience, I was an unknown quantity, I was 'Just another single male' among the masses. I knew that it was going to take a bit of time to build some rapport. After many months in chat slowly getting some craic going with others I managed to get asked to my first meet and Greet in Autumn 08, I met some great folks that Night, though was crapping myself as I only knew one lady attending whom I'd met a few weeks before hand, so to say I was nervous was an understatement, not to mention the hovering around the bar trying to 'spot the swingers'....which I have to say was very hard, as they were dressed well and as if on a social night out( I had notions of seeing a gang of ladies gathered in tightly fastened Corsets( hey ...was my Imagination, I was allowed to let it run wild:P) Anyway, I met Loads at that meet, I mingled, I drank a bit and I danced a small bit( very bloody badly I may add)I got to chat with a load of cool couples and singles and I went with an open mind just being glad I could attend as I know it was hard for single males to get asked to them at the time. The night ended, I had made some great new swing friends, and despite the fact I returned to my bed alone, I had thoroughly enjoyed myself. Lo and behold came on site Monday and I knew loads, got a few meets from it, and a week or so later got asked to my First swing party by a couple I had met at the meet, and they obviously thought I was a decent skin ( Bonny and Clyde kudosworship I am eternally Greatfull for that Invite) Well from there the rest is History, I have had some great nights from this site, (not being a clubber anymore) I enjoy the meet and greets for the social side, and i have to say thats the way to treat it, if you do happen to get invited to play with a few sexy folks its just an added bonus. As Mona said, the single guys are in short supply, I have been at loads of meets and its quiet disappointing to see so many sexy ladies left twiddling they're thumbs at the end of the night ( I do my best, but only so Much titan Luv I can spread around..joking) So Lads, Get yer Fingers out, put the bit of effort in, the ladies are extremely approachable on the site, sure they might bust yer balls a bit in chat but its all in good fun and playing the ** cough** 'Mating Game' but believe me you will Kick yourself for not going, let not shyness be an issue, god Knows I am a shy person on the Bar scene....don't laugh yee fookers ...tis true....No One will make any judgments of you, any ridiculous expectations, just be yourself, and your good at being that so be natural. Go with the flow, and if you don't get together with anyone keep heart, getting to know the people socially first is one of the most important elements of Swinging, the sex is just the red cherry on top of a very enjoyable cake, with many great ingredients. Ok Enough Of my banter, Lads read this , get yer good shirt ironed, and stick a few creases in them jeans, and get yer ass to The meet and Greet on the 9th and the 10th. I'll be the smiley fecker at the bar, ....mines a Pear Bulmers by the way 8)
a great thread, and reminds me not only of the nerves before a meet&greet but the little bit of nerves before every meet ...but it is that nervous anticipation ...the butterflies ...sure a meet wouldnt be the same without it. the nerves are natural...I am sure may guys here are involved in sports competitions....the nerves before a game...its what gives you your edge...desire to do well...perform at your best... & perhaps there in lies the crux of the problem... before a game you plan, train, exercise, know what you opposition will do.... it is a little more difficult to train for meets...but the more you go to the better you get...so take every opportunity you can to go to a meet&greet. your first meet& greet is more akin to going to the teenage disco ... you want to go but feel ackward, afraid you will say something stupid & make a fool of yourself...but guys the girls & couples feel the same way. ... worse even because for the girls they begin wondering what to wear, hair, make-up, their figure.... so everyone is in the same boat...unfortunately because of the secrecy requirement it isnt even possible to ask in the chatrooms who is going....so you may be going alone & have to walk into the room alone... that walk in is perhaps the hardest part of the evening...walk in, look round, head straight to the bar....safety of a drink.... perhaps it is something the hosts need to look at...how to make people feel comfortable as they enter. I like the idea of people having a little sticker on their shirt, in a public area it means you can spot the other like minded people...& even then it is difficult to make that opening conversation...but "do you come her often" can be the ice breaker.... at the meet&greet progresses you quickly realise everyone is the same as you, just ordinary folks out having a drink, meeting with friends & being friendly. Marie recommends going easy on the booze...a good idea...you dont want to much dutch courage move round the room, just chat & say hi, listen, be interested & dont try to be what your not. I have gone to a few meet&greets now...enjoyed everyone...they were all slightly different but most of all I met people, people I chatted to in the rooms, virtual friends that I wanted to meet & that wanted to meet me ... the meeting was about meeting as friends,making new friends anything else was a bonus ... and after the meet I had lots of new aquaintances to chat to in the rooms, to follow up by email & people to meet for coffee... remember no one is expecting perfection ... but in someones eyes you may be perfect ... so dont let the nerves get the better of you, you are here to meet people, people want to meet you & every now & then you have to step out from behind the computer screen. just go...go with the flow...you know you want to & will regret if you dont. since going to my first meet & greet I have not looked back ... it was the jump start I needed... So GO
Great Thread and have enjoyed reading the stories. We are all newbees at some time, and it is difficult for some blokes to have the courage, as its so far out of their comfort zone. You also have the whole internet personality versus real personality things to get over. The amount of times i have met chatty whitty chatroom people who turn out to be shy and quiet in the real life kind of people. Some like meet and greets and some don't. Personally i'm not really a fan of the big ones, as i have seen what happens when the beer gets on board of some people and they get a bit silly, and how they can spoil it for everyone else and can suddenly be happy to let the whole world that they are a swinger standing in a room of swingers. If you know others that are going arrange to meet up with them and have a chat, and i would really agree on being early if you new as its much easier to be one of the first in and then you get to meet people as they arrive rather than to have to walk into a room full of strangers. There are a few women in here that i call the Cougars (you know who you are) who are more experienced and well known that most, and i know that they scare some blokes, and the blokes feel they wont live up to expectations. I have had it said to me so many times and have been asked about how to get around it so many times, that i could write a book on it. Its much easier for couples and Females as they are accepted much quicker than a lot of the males, but if you guys stick at it and have the courage to attend you will perhaps have your opportunities greatly enhanced and have a whole new world of fun opened up to you. Be nice to each other, have fun and stay safe and you won't go far wrong. Sean xx
mona hun great post,,,,,but omg if i wasnt scared of going to a meet and greet ,,after reading all them comments i deff would be ,,, guys its a great night out ,,chat,,,laugh,,,and have fun geting to know everyone,,, and at the end of the day,,,if you dont want to go ,,,dont go ,,,so easy for all us experienced ppl to say it easy but you have to find that out foryourself by going,, hope to meet you guys that do pluck up the courage to go ,,u will have a great time xxxx lucyxx
sean says****There are a few women in here that i call the Cougars (you know who you are) who are more experienced and well known that most, and i know that they scare some blokes, and the blokes feel they wont live up to expectations***** :kick: sean hun i know you have called me this in main chat a few times now,,,and maybe i am ,,,but jsut to say i have met lots of single guys ,,but to date ,,never had a no show so i mustnt be as frightening as i may seem in chat,,,,passionkiss
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sean says****There are a few women in here that i call the Cougars (you know who you are) who are more experienced and well known that most, and i know that they scare some blokes, and the blokes feel they wont live up to expectations*****
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sean hun i know you have called me this in main chat a few times now,,,and maybe i am ,,,but jsut to say i have met lots of single guys ,,but to date ,,never had a no show so i mustnt be as frightening as i may seem in chat,,,,passionkiss

I didnt mention any names, but all i'm saying is there are a few women in here that scare some blokes off, and i can understand where they are coming from.
Its much easier as a couple as you always have someone with you, so you never stuck for someone to talk too......lol
sillyassionkiss:
This is an absolutely great thread+really does make great reading for anyone that has any doubts+nerves about going to a meet+greet for the 1st i am one of these,was hoping to venture to one this wkend but cant,i must say thanks for the honesty+speaking for myself the next time im thinking about going I dont think i'll feel as apprehensive from reading this...at least i hope not! Just like anything else it helps to hear from other people that have been in this kind of position before,so good on ye..
sean says****There are a few women in here that i call the Cougars (you know who you are) who are more experienced and well known that most, and i know that they scare some blokes, and the blokes feel they wont live up to expectations*****
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sean hun i know you have called me this in main chat a few times now,,,and maybe i am ,,,but jsut to say i have met lots of single guys ,,but to date ,,never had a no show so i mustnt be as frightening as i may seem in chat,,,,passionkiss
Cougars??? I've been calling them Coyotes all this time:-? now my face is truely red :-o:-o
good post desdemona- u will be glad to know the list is now full for guys- there is even a waiting list !!
unfortunately a waiting list or not - chances are a lot of the guys just wont turn up. I know quite a few on here personally having gone to meet and greets for the guts of a year and a half. I was scared shitless the first time i went to one - having travelled to clonmel on my own not knowing anyone. Within 5 mins i felt right at home. 1. its normally in a private function room under an assumed party name that ur given before hand. 2. Ive been recognised out in the pubs/clubs at night as ive put my face on cam - answer - he must be on swing as well and so is there for the same reason. Id rather u come up and say hi than sit in the corner and snigger. 3. You dont go in and start talking flirtatious/durty straight away - it would be a long night if ya did - swingers - even us more experienced ones - do talk about mundane things !!!!! 4. ive been told that i come across as an agressive female in chat but actually in person im lovely:giggle: But seriously guys - we hear all the time about it being so hard for you to get to know girls in here - go to a meet and greet and the whole door for swing4ireland is opened up for you. Ul be amazed at how easy it is for you to talk in chat and as the females have met u in the flesh ul also be amazed at how many meets youll get out of it !!!!!!!!!!!!
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good post desdemona- u will be glad to know the list is now full for guys- there is even a waiting list !!

Handsome Bloke, there are more than one meet organised and they have been on the lets meet up forum for weeks now (so how many of them have you mailed your request to attend, I'd actually be interested in knowing).....there will be more to come.....
But guys get yer name down and and dont think just cos you are a regular in chat that you will automatically get an invite.
all attitude ,,,very well said,,plain and simple ,,,boink:happy:
Fantastic post Mona, should go a long way to encouraging single guys to come out to the meets:thumbup:
well done mona on your post i for one can go back to my first meet in clonmel long time ago and wow was full of nerves but after few mins everyone was so nice and got to chat and meet some sexy single women even ended up with a sexy women in my room at end the night just to say i can say i can understand why guys pull out or dont go u dnt know wat your missing out on chance to talk to so many sexy down to earth women and as they say u dont know till u try and cant wait to see ye all at next meet i go 2 and mona you are a smashing sexy fun women so men you dont know what your missing out on drinkies
Attitude well said 2 and belive me you are very nice in person to chat 2
Excellent post Desdemona, As a single I too was nervous attending my first meet !!! What if I am recognised, will I be ignored, how will I recognise the meet group ! All of my worries melted away as the organiser of the meet Marie called me and did the introductions. My halo fell off and has been known to go missing since. I have met and made friends with some fantastic people ! So to all you single guys out there who have not yet tested the water at a meet, get in you will not want to leave !!!
well i havent had the pleasure of a meet and gret yet but when i do go to one ill just be myself and people will take me for who i am
The stories above give great insight. No shows are unforgivable in life in general
Hi all, Thank you so much mona for this thread. I have found it very useful to read all of the replies. thanks to all that posted. I have been around on the site for a little while now and find it hard to get chatting in the chatrooms as a lot of people seem to know each other. I haven' t been to a meetngreet yet and I thank Marie to have invited me to the one in my local town coming up in april. Of course i'm feeling a nervous but very much looking forward to meeting people. I am a genuine single guy with lots of respect for people and i feel like i' ve been put in to the bag of "perv single guys". I know from experience that there are a lot of time wasters on here and also know that i am not one of them. I am very much looking forward to the meetngreet and to get to know likeminded people. I am surprised at what i' ve read earlier that there are very few single guys on here that are serious and will follow on what they say. I' ve been to meetings organised here with members and at the last minute they either cancel or not turn up, i find this so annoying and if someone is going to do this they shouldn' t be here. I know that I would not organise a meet and not turn up. People like that make it hard for the rest of us. Though i must say that i' ve met a couple of great genuine people on here and i hope to meet more. Wishing every1 all the best and looking forward to meeting u all athe next meetngreet in the west. xxxxxxxx: lol2: :rose: :happy: passionkiss rotflmao Heat
Never understood and still don't understand anyone male or female saying they will attend anything (meet & greet or arranged meets)and then not showing up. Obviously genuine situations arise which change plans but it happens to frequently to be given the benefit of the doubt. I treated my first meet and greet as I would attending a night club in an unfamiliar town. Full of people out for a drink a chat and take it from there... If you can arrange to meet someone you chat with beforehand thats always good even just as a comfort in numbers... but the bottom line is its a social event with folk that behave themselves in the main meet area as normal people on a nite out would afterwords like any night out at a nite club anything can happen..... Your all Pervs and Pervettes but I like u all boink
does that go for me too ding , a proper pervette , :huh :whistle :kiss
This is a great post and i am delighted to read all the comments. I have only joined the site within the last 2 weeks and have started to think about agreeing ot go to one of the meet. However the problem i find is stopping me is that i am only 22 and single. I think that that is very young for the site and that i will be out of place in the meet and worst of all make other people feel uncomfortable. I would like to know if this is a common problem or if i should hold of a few years before going as far as a meet and greet.
gigryan says ********** have only joined the site within the last 2 weeks and have started to think about agreeing ot go to one of the meet. However the problem i find is stopping me is that i am only 22 and single. I think that that is very young for the site and that i will be out of place in the meet and worst of all make other people feel uncomfortable. I would like to know if this is a common problem or if i should hold of a few years before going as far as a meet and greet.************* absolutly not huny,,,this is a site for over 18 and everyone finds something that they are looking for,,and ever one is somone that somone else is looking for,,,,meet and greets are great when you new and trying to find your feet,,,i say go for it and enjoy,,,only thing that should stop you is not what other ppl say but how you feel about it yourselfboink happy swinging good luckxxxxxxx:welcome:
This is a great thread and from one who has taken a break from the site, it is most interesting to read the replies. I will never forget the first meet and greet I went to. I was a nervous wreck, and at times, I still am. It has nothing to do with the members who are attending, I would say it is more a self confidence thing for me. Like it or not, admit it or not, we are a little vane at times and we do try and take pride with our appearance etc. Sometimes, if someone hasn't been with anyone in a while, they may wonder if they will be able to "stand" up to the mark. Anyone who has met me,knows I am a big frame, and while I am happy in my own skin, I do realise this may not be to everyone's liking. However in saying that, any meet and greet I have attended, I have always been warmly welcomed and included in conversation etc. Swinging is a lifestyle choice and the people you encounter and the friends you make, may have a very positive impact on your life. I know of a few here, and they know who they are, are now some of my dearest friends. I know it can be daunting for not only single males, but also single females and new cpls too. Just give it a chance, be yourself, and the future will be very bright indeed.smile