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TheStig11, The point i believe aurorablue is making is that yes, you may discuss the general issue and that is in fact why the thread was left open. However, discussing specific users either by mods or regular users after their case has been moved on to admin and also when that user is no longer here is unacceptable.
May i ask what do we have the right to discuss on a thread Admin left open?? As it is a thread about the locking of threads and members feelings on that.
Basically what I am trying to say here is this , yes, you may add your thoughts to the thread, yes the thread has remained open , as admin has said , censorship is not the reason for threads being locked , removed or deleted. When this happens, it is always due to the fact that there is more to the story than what is being said and the correct way to go about any complaint is to send a ticket to the support centre to have the issue raised there, where it will be dealt with in a respectful private way without compromising anyone , neither complainant or agressor publicly on the forums. No one here is out to spoil your fun or dampen your experience of this site , however we do have rules here, rules which you agreed to abide by when you signed up, those rules ask that you respect others right to privacy here and enjoy the site without seeking to annoy inflame harass or incite animosity to other users, site staff or crux of the problem here is that people are quick to judge without knowing all of the facts, and threads can often descend into all out war, and there are those who seek to stir the flames when they are not actually involved in the issue. In the interest of fairness and privacy it is expected that any user here will realise when they are not contributing anything of worth and have the good sense to stay out of things that dont actually involve them. Moderators here have a difficult enough job to do without being held to scruitiny for every single decision they make by people whos business it is not to concern themselves with such things . By all means enjoy the forums . Opinions make them what they are, but please think carefully when you post on matters which no bearing on your own experience of the site and only seek to drive a wedge in the community ...a them and us situation is not what anyone would hope for here , we are a community .
It occurs to me that there is a reason why a threat like this stays up at the top of the list even though there are a lot of contributors saying they wish it would go away. The reason this thread hasnt died a death is, I suggest, because the issue hasnt been answered. The only answer has been that things are done for a reason, you are not to discuss them, not to criticise them, you are to accept them. That is a very hard thing to convince an audience, particularly an Irish audience of. The issue that remains unanswered is, why are threads locked for no apparent reason. Ok if someone is on the forums saying Tom4 is a gobshite or whatever, then I would be the first to deny that I am (ahem no comments please) and want it taken down and the Perpetator shot at dawn. But when a patently benign thread is locked, people get pissed off. Whats worse is when the same thread once locked is then reopened so a particular group of members can comment on it, and then relocked! Sorry kids, but you can criticise, tell people like we are boring the arses off ya, and would we just shurrup all you like. You just wont get some people to accept the reasons things are is "because things is what they is"

Tom:
You have struck at the nub of the issue:
"... when a patently benign thread is locked..."
Perhaps - it wasn't so benign as you'd think.
When not in full awareness of the facts - it's best to shut the fcuk up.
i agree Marie, I assume you have a full and complete dossier there?
The issue has been debated to death and the reasons/explanations you have had already are all you will get, I suspect you know that already. Its a fact of life that on any forum there will be threads that get locked from time to time, some members will not like that, but that is just the way it is and there are far more interesting things to be getting on with here.
Marie worship Admin lock it please :thumbup:
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Ok if someone is on the forums saying Tom4 is a gobshite or whatever, then I would be the first to deny that I am (ahem no comments please) and want it taken down and the Perpetator shot at dawn.

We wouldn't go saying that about ya anyways tom4
I'm not telling you anything you don't already know
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Tom:
Assumptions - like generalisations - I find, are rarely accurate.
I'm no more privvy to the details of the case than your good self - but I've the commonsense to see that there's an issue being dealt with - in private - by the Admin/Mod Team and therefore all's well in Dodge City!
On the matter of the ongoing debate - I find it's useful for folks to see that there are wheels in motion, that there are procedures in place to cope with almost any eventuality that may occur on-site and that there's a great team dealing with sometimes sensitive matters in a professional and exemplary manner as it is here on S4I.
Nit-picking and griping aside - I love the way this site works - visible or not.

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i agree Marie, I assume you have a full and complete dossier there?
I don't want to make this whole issue worse but when a friend is in need of support surely we should be able to stand by them? And i am sick to death of this " them and us", and it is not really non mod members saying it. I would just like to clarify something, if mods are just members who volunteer their time then surely as members they are open to be slightly criticised as many members are on the forums without all this "them and us"? For christ people we are all just members here, been a mod or non mod doesn't make a difference, we are all equal here and should be treated that way.
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I don't want to make this whole issue worse but when a friend is in need of support surely we should be able to stand by them?
And i am sick to death of this " them and us", and it is not really non mod members saying it. I would just like to clarify something, if mods are just members who volunteer their time then surely as members they are open to be slightly criticised as many members are on the forums without all this "them and us"?
For christ people we are all just members here, been a mod or non mod doesn't make a difference, we are all equal here and should be treated that way.

I agree we are all equal here....
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For christ people we are all just members here, been a mod or non mod doesn't make a difference, we are all equal here and should be treated that way.

All members including moderators have to abide by the sites rules, as has been said in the past, if anyone has a particular issue with any member here that hasn't been resolved through the normal means, they should use the support ticket system, the admin team reviews all support tickets and deals with them impartially.
Thanks admin. And fair play for posting on this thread as many times as you have, it does show us members that you take an active intrest in the site.