thanks for the compliment dora....a cpl of things to add to my previous post....firstly is that in my experience a man will call a woman a slut if they will sleep with other men but not them, but if they get it as well they probably won't - at least until the liason is terminated. Sour grapes is the phrase that comes to mind there. Also, in my experience women are much more likely to call other women sluts than men.
Second thing is this - this isn't an issue about behaviour, it's an issue of social convention and control. Even b4 the Mongol hordes brought penis worship to western europe men have wanted to control womens behaviour (if u have ever watched gorillas in the wild u will see that this behaviour is certainly not restricted to humans, and you can step much further away from our species and still see it in action - cows, sheep, in fact most social animals), but the pagan faith didn't allow for this because it's a matriarchy.
With the onset of the Abrahamic faiths (Christianity, Judaeism, and later on Islam) men had a social construction that was based around men. Bear in mind all these religions have codified the subservience of women to men in their teachings. They also all have strict behavioural codes designed to restric the freedom of women. While we live in a society that denies basic parts of the human condition (sexual enjoyment and self-determination) to one part of the population, anyone from the excluded sector is subject to vilification from the main. Anyone who tries to live their life in a way proscribed by societies controling interests (religion in this instance) is likely to be ostracised, harrassed, and abused.
cheers
Andy
love like blood - killing joke
andy
Bah humbug and sweaty bollocks to xmas! (just in case ur wonderin, this is the other half of losmags lol)
Just for all u pretend christians out there, xmas decorations should go up on 24th Dec and down on 6th Jan - twelfth night - not up on 6th Dec and down on 24th Jan.
And as we r talking christians (yes, we are, it's ostensibly a christian festival, albeit hijacked from the pre-christian tradition) here's a question for you.....if jesus came back to earth tomorrow, how do you think he'd feel about all the crosses you wear? Kinda rubbing it in ain't it? Can you imagine going up to Jackie Onassis and dangling a gold sniper rifle you have on a chain round ur neck in her face? - here's thinking of JFK baby! Do any of u really think he would ever want to see a cross again after some fuckers nailed him to one? Don't even begin to tell me it's a mark of respect - if you wanted to show respect for that sacrifice go out and feed the hungry in the world, clothe the naked, actually give something other than the odd bit of spare change to try and change the way the world is run, not give lip service to the idea of a man who was killed for basically saying lets be nice to one another for a change.
Sorry, that's been coming for a while, rant over....for now.
Oh yeah, and if what i said offends you - GOOD
Andy
well now....andy here....i think respect for someone as a person, a human being, is a necessity no matter what ur relationship is - friend or foe, man or woman, sexual or platonic - and it has to be said that, yes, there are some men on here who are nothing but respectful to the women they encounter on here. Having said that, how does anyone know if that respect is genuine, or a front to get what they want? Now head and make i don't know personally, but seem like reasonable enough chaps to me, and make certainly always gives pretty much everyone the sort of respect i'm talking about (can't say for head, only seen him on chat once), and i can personally assure u all that mr nibs is someone u can trust to respect you, but i know that there are a not-inconsiderable number of men on here who will show that respect only as long as they are getting what they want, or seem likely to, and as soon as that chance goes they can show their true colours. I also think that the fact that the site is moderated, along with the rules set down for the use of the chat rooms, makes it dificult for anyone who isn't prepared to offer that respect to continue using it. Convention makes us all polite when we have to be, it's when we don't that the truth will out.
To me a slut isn't about how many men a woman is prepared to sleep with in a given period of time, or how she goes about getting those men, it's about a lack of self-respect, and respect for your partner(s).
If I find a twenty foot tree do you have someone to chop it down and move it? Big burly lumberjacks with check shirts apply here..........
:happy:Please keep the hair guys.....
When they are shaved I just end up thinkin about that sad lonely scraggy little chicken left on the butchers slab............
Jax:smoke::inlove:
I Feel Like I'm Fixin To Die - Country Joe And The Fish
Fit But You Know It - The Streets
:OBye Bye Baby - Bay City Rollers:clap:
Woman In Love - Barbara Streisand (dont think i've spelt that right)
:Psorry here you go - i'll make it an easier one...:lol2:
Black Magic Woman - Fleetwood Mac or Santana
Jax:smoke::inlove:
E=MC2 - Big Audio Dynamite
Mrs Robinson - Simon & Garfunkel (or The Lemonheads)
well this is gonna sound somewhat narcissistic
hmmmm bi....there wud be room for about 10 people in our house, and that's if we put the dog outside!!! the word shoebox comes to mind lol.
andy
i started out with nothin and i still got most of it left
well, on the remote chance that we might actually make this one, we'd vote for Galway....been out for a night or 2 there, pubs down shop street are cool.
Andy
Baby Please Dont Go - Them
Ah bonkin....all his "odd" behaviour can be explained very easily...u used the word "husband", so he must be married - i rest my case.
andy
ps...please note there are no smilies on this post -that's coz i'm not feckin joking.
;)So being curious I had a look on the net and found the following:-
When someone says that they are going to see a man about a dog they really mean that they are unwilling to reveal the true nature of their business. The expression comes from the long forgotten 1866 play 'Flying Scud' by a prolific Irish-born playwright of the period named Dion Boucicault. One of the characters uses the words as an excuse to get away from a tricky situation. This character, an eccentric and superannuated old jockey, says: "Excuse me Mr. Quail, I can't stop; I've got to see a man about a dog". This is the only thing that seems to have survived from the play.
So there ye go - tis Irish after all........
Jax:inlove::smoke:
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still think we need big men to help........:hunk:
Jax:smoke::inlove:
Oh I think I'd best stop now..........:P Before you sart to think i'm really strange....:grin::haha::huh:
Jax:smoke::inlove:
FFS Tussey someone else that hasn't got to grips with the game:banghead: Take one word from previous post........ blah de blah de blah.......
Ok - so i'll go with Tussey's leap and go for
Welcome to the working week - Elvis Costello
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Tijuana Lady - Gomez
I could go on and on and on and on.......
If something makes me shiver the first time I hear it, it will have the same effect everytime I listen to it and listen to it I will - over and over again (quite often to Andy's disgust as our musical tastes vary somewhat:lol2
Ahhh Make hun - I'm originally from West Bromwich in UK - maybe there's some undiscovered Galway / West Brom connection
andy
i gotta say frank i really don't see the issue with a playpen if there were no kids in it....it's the explotation of minors that's the issue there, not whether or not folks have any....but i can kinda see where u r coming from.:yinyang:
all i wanted to know was where exactly we all stood, and now i do...that's the important thing. I'd have been equally as happy for admin to ammend the chat room rules to ban animals. :thumbup:
Andy