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glad i only paid for 1 month on this
I'm sorry you feel you've wasted your time, and though I don't agree with you completely, there are some factors you should perhaps bear in mind.
It's true there are a massive majority of single guys on this site, so yes, there is huge competition. Life can be really tough for that crowd, and I won't blame anyone who gives up.
That said, your profile is not exactly appealing. In the first place, your profile description is very short. I personally find myself more interested in guys who tell me a little more about themselves.
Secondly, you have no photos up. Look at this from the ladies' point of view: if you can pick from fifty guys, why would you go for the one who, for all you know, could look like Quasimodo?
Lastly, there is a lot you can do to make yourself stand out. Post to the forum. Add a joke to the joke thread. Pop into the chat room now and then.
You'll have to accept that going this route is not going to mean an easy lay. You'll have to put effort into convincing the lady you will be worth her effort. And when I say 'lady' I include couples. With me and Bull I'm the one who has to be convinced, and he then has to approve of whoever is on my shortlist from there. I would imagine hooking up with a gay/bi guy you'd have to put the same effort and courtesy in to convince him you're worth the trouble.
I know that sounds brutal, like a meat market, and to be honest, to a degree it is. It is not everyone's cup of tea. However, we have, in two months, met new people five times, and in three of those cases took things to the bedroom.
Yes, once you meet someone face to face you're still not guaranteed sex. Sorry, but that's just the reality of the matter.
Good luck, my friend, either on here or, if you realise this is not for you, wherever else you turn to for company.
Boo
well both of us will chat to anyone with manners and wit, as will a lot of folks on here. But Boo is right, u need to engage with folks, stand out (which can be hard in chat sometimes), make a name for yourself as it were, you have a whole heap of competion on here (or any other site like it for that matter) so you will need to persevere if ur gonna get anywhere.
Having said that, there are loads of single males on here who have no problem finding folks to chat to, so maybe it's not just other folks who are to blame?
either way, good luck to you mate
Luv2lick, i know of some single males who have had a lot of success in meeting women from this site, by treating them with respect, getting to know them and gain their trust before meeting, and stimulating them mentally as well as physically. Best thing you can do is get yourself into the chatrooms and join in, you'll soon get to know people. Good luck whatever you decide
Sexlightened
Well put as always Boo.
I was on this site for some time before I had a proper chat never mind meet up with anyone. I have to admit I did think it was going to be a case of, join up, send a few mails, and woo hoo, away we go, 
How wrong I was. The good thing was that I was lucky enough (ok, ok, cheeky enough) to get chatting to some decent people in the chat rooms. It took ages to find a couple to exchange e-mails with me & eventually meet, but it was well worth the wait, well, well worth it ;). You just have to stick with it if you are genuinely interested in meeting people, it will happen eventually.
How wrong I was. The good thing was that I was lucky enough (ok, ok, cheeky enough) to get chatting to some decent people in the chat rooms. It took ages to find a couple to exchange e-mails with me & eventually meet, but it was well worth the wait, well, well worth it ;). You just have to stick with it if you are genuinely interested in meeting people, it will happen eventually. 
Warming the Bed
I have to agree. I've been on this website for about a year now n I've never recieved a single response from any of the 100+ emails I sent to different women. And I think my profiles the best its gonna get. Has all my details and a pic. Whats up with that?
Sex God
HI Paul,
I know your frustration, But just a word of advice, having read your profile, using the words 'Ugly' and 'Women' in the same sentence will never come across good, no matter what context you use it in.
I can appreciate what your trying to say but maybe wording it better would help.
As Tippbi said, It can be ardous waiting to meet anyone on here, and thinking a swinging sites going to be a 'quick meet up' Thing is barking up the wrong tree.
The women and couples that do swing despite they're more open outlook to sex and couplings than maybe non scene people, still require to develop a rapport with a person, a sense of trust and secuirity before they commit to taking the first steps to a meet.
If its a thing that people (well single males mainly) havent the patience or perseverance to stick with it they may find it frustrating at times.
Orgasminator
:Pmabye chocolate is the way into womens knickers :undecided:
Orgasminator
:Pa the old memorys not what it use to be :smoke::sticky:
Sex God
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I think the replies to the original post..give a good view of the different personalties on the site. Some think they are God's gift...Others happy to give good advice...and others well less said the better...
rgds
Frank
But I am Gods gift.
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I think the replies to the original post..give a good view of the different personalties on the site. Some think they are God's gift...Others happy to give good advice...and others well less said the better...
rgds
Frank
Frank, this is an internet forum. People are going to have vastly different opinions. What exactly is your problem ? The only posts I've seen from you would suggest you're a somewhat frustrated individual. Chill out a bit, I'm sure you could contribute to the fun. Peace out, Bull.
Orgasminator
:Pwhat about us that think the whole god thing is bullshite ,:yawn:
I understand what this guy is saying myself. I have been popping in and out of here for a few months now and I don't think I have ever gotten a reply to any of my emails.
And I wasn't asking girls "show us your tits" or anything like that. The internet if full of that stuff why would I come on here to see more of it?
It seems to me that when someone sees a single male on here, they automatically assume that all they want is a ride and nothing more.
Funnily enough, the only responses I have received have been from other gay or bi fellas, which is nice but not really what I was after.
I guess I'm just not that interesting.
Bull buddy.....ur by no means the only person who has said this to Frank (myself included, although i wasn't quite as polite as you), and i'm sure you won't be the last....best just to ignore him mate.
Ygakst....most people on here get mails from people without ever having spoken to them...speaking for myself, I would never respond to a mail from someone who hadn't chatted to me, in the same way I don't read unsolicited mail that comes through my letterbox at home. If you want to connect to folks on here by far the best way is to spend more time in chat than just popping in and out - despite what a lot of people seem to think a lot of us (but by no means all) need to make a connection with someone before considering taking things any further, and email just doesn't cut it in that respect. Chat allows you to interact in a realistic fashion, and gives you and the people you chat to a chance to assess someone in much the same way as speaking to someone on the phone or face to face...you get a feeling about people through it that you simply don't through a non-interactive medium like mail. Despite the name of the site it is primarily a social networking environment, and it works best when you approach it as such. There are in fact quite a few on here, ourselves included, who for one reason or another either don't swing, or are taking a beak from swinging, but continue to use the site for the social aspect. My advice (for what it's worth) is to get to know folks through the chat rooms....it may take a while, or you might slot right into it, but it's well worth the effort.
Yes t-bags I'm actually starting to agree with you - this is a social networking site primarily and perhaps it should change its title.
For those of you interested, there are other sites and one in particular which is a 'true' swingers site - in that it's not primarily used for social networking but for hookups. It has a great validation system as well.
Having said that, if you're a single male you're still going to find it tough. Afterall, swinging is about swapping and 'true' swinging is between couples ..though us single bi fems are thankfully included as well. Single males need to realise they have to be exceptional in order to be considered and therefore regular thoughtless emails are pointless.
Tbags I do disagree with you on not responding to emails. Afterall, this is the internet and you are technically here to get hookups with people on the internet. And how does one communicate? Well, email of course.
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this thread is getting interesting now... we are discussing the in's n out's of a swing site... excellent... i think it is all of those things mentioned...plus its a great alternative to television, or going to the pub, plus you get to meet real people who are in common with you either by meet n greet or single meets...not to mind the great fun we have in chatrooms and lately at the quiz...
ahm what about the swinging???
Sex God
Good Point Cherry! What about the swinging.
I have to say in defence of the site though, its a bit unfair to say its a social networking site,
I find the small social aspect of the site a of a nice change from the faceless, cold aspect of some of the other swinging sites. True the chat rooms in her do have a lot of mindless twaddle going on in them at times,and its normally a case in chat rooms of who can shout loudest that get to be the main chatters people if they really want to can add to the chat or just I use the site to swing, and in that respect I certainly dont Find it lacking, being a single male and all.
As for the single males having to be exceptional, I think thats subjective, I'd never personally claim to be exceptional, but more so my genuine approach to people and having made the effort (that so many single guys dont) I've managed to meet people.
I think at the end of the day, this site is different things to different people, but the majority are here at for the same thing.
I have been on a number of sites for a few years now, and thankfully i'm lucky to have lifetime membership on all of them so it aint costing me anything, but to be fair this place is the most friendly and the one i like the best.
There are alot of single guys on all the sites and i have seen this discussion many times over the years.
My 2 pence worth is you only get out of it what your prepared to put in and if your expecting to jump into bed with some female after a couple of emails then your in the wrong place, and you need to be on an escorts site.
I have met some great people through a number of the sites, but it takes time and effort especially when your a single guy to stand out as the supply far out strips the demand, and the established guys tend to do better because couples and single ladies know there is no bull with them and they know the score.
I tend to get most of my meet-ups now through word of mouth and friends of friends.
It is hard in the first place, but it is worth it in the end and you will find the same story on every site, just i find this one to be a friendlier place.
And when it comes to swinging, in my experience the women call the shots, as they are the key players. If the lady in a couple decides this is not for her anymore, the guy probably isin't going to get too many meets. If the guy decides to call it a day and his lady friend continues, she will probably need a bigger diary.
Stick with it guys, cause you just might to get to have a great time if you do.
Sean
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this site is set up for swingers per say.. but it needs others too .. if you want a total couple swingers site set it up.. for now ,, its offering any alternative than straight .. and that is why it is so popular plus the people who are making this site sucessful are female...so .... nothing broke, nothing to fix
well dora call the site something else then. you listed all the things this site was and left off the swinging. do you not see the problem with that?
