today i recieved an email from a girl from the site.
This girl wasn't looking for me to ride her, she was just saying thank you. not coz i fucked her good, not coz i tongued her good.
But coz i helped her deal with someguys that harressed her in the chatroom.
I said this in another post.
GIRLS ARE NOT MEAT.
Just coz u might want something, they may not want the same thing.
this is the email she sent me,
Hi Robert, thanks for your message but after thinking about it I've decided that I'm not going to bother with the chatrooms - I just don't need that kind of harrassment in my life! Thank you for being so kind and understanding.
When are everyone on this site going to respect everyone on here. since i joined the site i have learned to respect all on here, lads, and in this case i am going to say, boys, DO NOT HARRESS GIRLS. follow chatroom rules, respect others wishes,. or leave.
This girl is ready to leave just after she has paid to be here, that is not right. ur cock is nothing without your hand. your cock is nothing without a personality. one day u will learn this, go into a nightclub and pull ur cock out, see how far u get.
The word here is respect. respect. respect... deal. or leave
well hun, this is unfortunate but to be honest folks should realise that if their attitude is wrong then they will have no luck here. respectful chatting will yield more positive results.
Well said Babychicks. Some guys will never learn, this site was set up for ALL people to enjoy, harrassing anyone on it only makes it more difficult for genuine people & extremely daunting & nerve wrecking for people new to the scene.
To all the single guys out there, I'm not an expert on women but I am married to one so here is something to think about. Regardless of how many or few guys are on here it is the women on here who rule, if you are not respectful to them then no one else here is going to respect you, nor will they converse with let alone meet with you. Be nice to people, after you chat for a while you will get an idea of their personality & they of yours. Only then will the majority of people consider taking things any further.
I hope this girl has not left the site, it is disappointing that 1 asshole can the chances of people gaining something from this site, not just this 1 girl, but also for any potential partners/friends she may make here.
Whoever that asshole is, I hope you are proud of yourself, cos no body else is.................
yes alex there are asre lickers .. but i would much rather deal with those than someone abusing me, now by no means am i going to put you into the catogary of "the pushy abusive single male " because you are defo not , I just think that in this case the guys from the cpls have it spot on and i couldnt say it better myself .. now if a single guy I didnt know wrote what they did I would say arse licker .. yes ,wrong to jump to conclusions but unfortunalty it comes from being on here , although ill give anyone a chance i am synical of "the nice guy ", i hope that abuse reports were sent in and that the guys in question are dealt with as if we want this site to grow and continue to work for us all abuse cannot be tolerated , females are needed on this site and as people have commented already , theres not that many genuiene single fems available so if the idiots keep abusing any new ones that join , the single female population on this site is going to die out and what will the guys do then .. there abusive attitude will only get them a good kick in the nuts in a club ....
They are arse lickers.... Give them a star and be done with it.
Every single chat room in the world has elements of abuse and nearly all have a proper abuse procedure.
The above posts will not be read by the gobshites that abused that female member and even if they did read it they wouldnt give a damm about it.
Its a cynical exercise in arse licking at the expense of genuie males on this site and in this instance I am coming out of my box and saying it.
Report abuse it will be dealt with by the relevant people, via the relevant process and procedure. If that is is not working well then it needs to be fixed.
rgds
Frank
A lot of people read the forums .. even the abusers and although i do not know biker , a friend holds him in high regard so i think it unfair of you to label him just from a post .. I have on the other hand met bc and i can assure you he is no arse licker , hes a genuienly nice guy .. people seem to think that once you join up to this site that common decency doesnt count anymore .. you might be talking through your pc but the end goal is to hook up with someone .. would you stand by in the street if a woman was being abused and not speak out .. im sure bc nd biker wouldnt .. and the system here has changed recently but it works .. if people send in detailed reports they are acted on
I Dont know them from Adam
But I am allowed have my say on what I see posted.
Thank You
First Of all I am saddened to hear that this person had to put up with such crap on decency again left at the door due to the common misconception amongst some men that women who swing are fancy free a load of horse dung, Just because a woman decides she has a more open attitude to sexuality does not mean she leaves her self respect and common sense at the door.
As for calling someone that conchur's with the OP's actions and post an arse licker, well thats just a cheap shot, we all are different, feck it if we all had the same opinions and outlooks on life we'd be a right boring lot, Peoples personalities and nature are a part of all theyre interactions in life, be it work, family life, Lust, love etc. I think we all bring elements of our personalities into everything we do, and If someone comes across as an 'arse licker' well so be your opinion, thats just someone showing theyre nature.
Everyone of us has a Online side to us, we're a bit more bolder, feel a bit more free to speak our mind than we may in face to face situations, but the underlying current of who we really are always shines through in some small degree.
Fair due's to Babychicks for bringing this topic up.
I totally agree with you and well done for them for assisting the member that was being abused.
And no I wouldnt stand by if I saw ..a Female or Male being abused in the street.
However I certainly woulndt take an ad out in the papers the next day telling of my exploits. I would leave it to the relevant authorities to deal with.
Over the past couple of weeks in chat I have seen certain brash and sweeping statements about 'single males' there who are also 'genuinely nice people', my reaction is to the post.
thanks
ajust as a matter of point, i am not an arse kisser, licker, fucker or sucker, thank u bi from me and biker.
I have to say, just coz all sites have a level of abuse, it doesnt make it right at all.
And i did report the full incident to admin, myself and a moderator both did, and it is now with the right people to deal with it.
My point is right, now, u heard it from bi, i am a nice guy, and alothough i am part of a couple it is not the reason i get on with the women off this site, alot of women and couples on here have never even chatted to my partner, and know me for being me, and they would meet me anytime, that doesnt come from having a mrs that is into this, it comes from just respecting people, and that is my whole point to this thread. it is simple.
If u come up with an excuse for this behavour, u endorce it, support it even. and people wil;l see u for what u are. (not a personal attack)
Well as a fellow Bashed single male, I can see what you mean, it is a shame that the genuine decent guys tend to get lambasted due to the moronic actions of a few.
I am sure that the Lady Mentioned in the original post has made a complaint, but I dont see any harm in the topic being brought up in discussion.
Most Guys will understand where he is coming from with the thread, in the long run its the actions of these individuals that as Bicurious mention may keep away , or put of a staedy influx of genuine females....god Knows we need all we can get :O
right single female here.
1st of all - congrats to babychicks and bikerduo whom i both hold in hight esteem....lol €50 later guys ty..lol
now on the subject of girls being abused - i have gotten a fair whack of it myself as quite a few people on here know but as ive been here about 7 months im used to it now - however if i got the level of abuse when i was a newbie that i get now - i have to say - i would have left the site long ago.
yes there is a generalisation of single males on here which is unfair but on the other hand - a lot of guys do think that a girl is up for anything cause there on here so look at it from both points of view.
now back to the reason of baby's thread - i honestly hope that the girl stays as there isnt enough females on here anyway but i totally understand if she wants to leave and shes not telling everyone and looking for sympathy - she e-mailed one of the nicer guys on here privately as he was nice to her.
all i can ask guys - and you know who you are - is give the girls a break - your complaining that theres never enough females to go around and when a new one joins you attack like a pack
of wolves looking for fresh meat
just my 2 cents worth
louise
er????? loise, can i pay that in installments please, i'm on a limited income, :violin:
Fair play to Babychicks....:clap:
We'll chip in a fiver if it helps,,,:thumbup:
Ok..here goes.
Having thought about this a bit more I cant really see a justification for having a dig at single guys. .. its just way too big a generalisation.
This is not an excuse for sleazy behaviour at all I just think its more a call to reason.
For one theres proper facilities here for policing this site (a lot more than most) and nobody wants to see this be imposed more and more.. I think you would agree. If a particular situation arises then the mods and admin can deal with it... they clearly have the power to ban people. Recently lots of people been having a go at single guys but I think it would be a mistake to breed this culture. The fact of the matter is lots of cpls and fems would want to see a cpls/fems only site but thats not what this place is. If thats your particular point of view youre in the wrong website, but even at that, a site like that I don’t think could exist for very long.
Swinging not only involves following your own interests but having a glimpse at all sorts of different sexual behaviours.. the most simple and obvious one being lots of guys actually would fuck ANYTHING that is moist and warm. This is quite a shock to some people actually. Im sorry for this woman but it could be the case that one line of a strong come-on could have been enough to send her over the edge. You simply don’t know and I think it would be wrong to surmise.
Women I know personally do have a go about the over bearing thing sometimes and thats perfectly legitimate but you don’t see them leaving the site. They tend to have a degree of understanding about it and can manage it. I find (just my experience) the women who are more genuine tend to be the ones who can handle whats going on around them. Nobody is here to scare anybody off but they not here to hold anybodys hand either (I know some people do). People who use these type of sites have to come to the plate with something and the first thing is being able to manage people... YOURSELF....I think anyway.
People are always looking for external reasons...why are there not enough women, why am I getting harassed, why do all these people argue. I think youll find you can change a lot about yourself with what youve got and when that happens these things will turn around quite quickly for you and youll be able to extract what YOU want from the site. Thats just the way I view online behaviour. A lot about it is looking after yourself emotionally and if youve cant find your own space that youre comfortable with then maybe its case that this particular place isn’t for you. Theres that old and very wise saying you attract what you give out and I think its particularly true on the net.
So unless theres a real exodus of women from this site I think we shouldn’t do it down... its only gonna breed a contemptuous and split community. People should be more prepared to grow a thick skin rather than pander to sensitivities. Just my point of view...call me unPC all you like.
Again id like to say im not advocating sleazy behaviour... I just think singling out one case is a bit like not seeing the wood from the trees.
Just as there are genuine males, females and couples that use the site as intended there are males, females and couples that don't and can fall into the category of harrasing, abusing or just being annoying, it doesn't matter which type the rules are there for good reason and if everyone followed them this would be a better place.
If any member feels that a rule has been broken there are many ways to report it, every report gets looked at and if appropraite action is taken.
i also want to point out ye i dont think all single men should be bashed or what ever you want to call it as i have come across a fair few men who are part of cpls who are quite abusive and have no respect.. i have also come across quite a few women with quite abusive tongues in their heads too.... from being on this site personally i ve learned to speak up for myself if some one abuses me i abuse back or if i feel the abusing back gets me no where i ignore them cos sometimes giving a reaction makes the abuse worse... as they say sticks and stones n all that... somestimes ignoring them makes them abusers go away quicker as they are only looking for a reaction...I ve seen men also being abused by other men... I think women are seen as being more vunerable on here when in fact a lot of women i know on here would tear any man apart who abuses her lol anyway my point is i think the abuse is across the board not just with single females....
So it seems like most fair members think bringing up individual stories like this serves no purpose
I am still typing my response....
Thank you for your input alex.
As the rules go for the forum, it is there for us all to share our points and view.
But me and u have met in the chatrooms before.
The last time I was in the beach bar and a couple was getting whispers from a guy that was repeatedly whispering them.
And after they had posted open requests for him to stop he continued. Now, at this time there was no moderators in the chatrooms, and this couple was starting to get the hump over it.
So all i posted in the room was .....
Please respect the chatroom rules, NO means NO, if someone tells u they are not interested that is the end of the conversation".
This guy then went on to start on me, telling me to but out, then u came in, and said it was none of my business, and i was poilcing without a badge. I take it u rememeber??. now. with that conversation in mind, I understand why u think it is ok for people to continue harressing someone, male, female, couples.
I didnt start this thread as a single bashers tool, that is not and was not my intention, I know that there are and have been couples too that have done the same thing. and i mearly used the word/term "boys" in the context of the case in question, not as the general rule.
This a post was for all to read, and hopefully for all to take alook inside themself and realise that a different approach may yield better results. So far we have heard from across the board, single girls, couples, and single guys, more posts from the people that read it would be nice, as it may help those that read it, (couples/singles) to think about what they say, how they say it, and there is nothing wrong with respecting the site rules and chat etiquet.
PS, thank you admin for ur input
Wouldn't it be great to actually hear from one of these guys that do harass/annoy single girls,either by mail,,or in the chatroom??
Be a great insight into Why they do it!!
Yes I remember and I dont see any inconsistancy between what I told you then and what im saying here. The policing of the site should be done in the proper way... if theres a serious problems mods etc can deal with it. If you want to moderate then get a badge and do it.
As an additional point who here feels the modding should only be done by people with badges?
Corkcpl, that would be great,
but do u see them having the courage to?????
to actually put there name to it?????
to admit it?????
I to would like to see things change, but I do not want to get rid or alienate any group/ gender from the site, as it is all of us that make the site what it is
Hmm, can i say somthing on behalf of the single males, most of you know me, and i chat a good bit, well, iv had nice things said to me, and some abuse, not really in equal measure i think because i reckon most that see me chat , know i can handle a bit of verbal :-)or maybe i just scare ppl in to politness :-) but, well thing is , i meet single males as well and i have to say , any of the single males i have met (was almost going to say come across, but pulled back at the last min), have been,more than pleasant, even the ones, that, it turned out I didnt have too much in common i know they are not all bad. So just a thumbs up for the good guys from slightly :-)
(actually maybe im lucky cos anyone i have met from the site have been nice)
oh and this is not arse licking of any discription, just stateing a fact,
:-) slightly X
This thread has turned into a labeling exercise, and labels are for clothes and tins!
A few guys messing on a site, that would appear to being dealt with by Admin, does not represent all of the guys on the site.
Arselickers what a term, and for what being nice?
This is afterall a sex site, and people get carried away, I am sure many of us log on while having or after having a few bevvies, sometimes we all get carried away, get into situations difficult to handle perhaps, but now we appear to be in a damn gender war!
I am not excusing harrassment, have never experienced it here or on any site, when I feel it is rearing it's head, I ignore or and if I did find myself in the centre of it I would complain..
Now in all honestly what purpose would it solve having a public whipping , if any guy did do as was asked earlier, inflame the situation perhaps?
well it was brought up in the forum and now ppl are just giving their view.... arselickers are ppl who literally tell a person anything they want to hear and be anything they think they person wants the to be... my self dont want that. i want to meet genuine ppl who are themselves no matter what... good or bad i want to know as much of the real person as i can before heading out to have a meet with them