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This letter is not meant to be abusive, or offensive to either sex. If you feel that way, please message and I will try to amend/clarify these statements. This is in fact a letter which was written on another site which I transcribed and edited. These thoughts hold true for me and I hope that the men on this site will also pipe up and agree with me. Or disagree. The important thing is that the women out there read this and take notes. Hehe. Dear Women of Swing4Ireland, Look, I know you women have it tough. most of the men on personals sites are just about impossible to understand (sorry guys, but I think its true). It can be scary, too, when men you don't know try to freak you you also have the other end of the spectrum. The man-ginas who are always trying to please you by giving you compliments by the dozen, only to get cheap thrills afterwards by TRYING to get your pictures to wank off to. I am not here for any of that. I respect women for the person that they are. The nurturing aspect of your individuality and your desire to care for others, and to be in a loving relationship. I truly do. But please, stop being so timid already. Honestly, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I like that you want to take things slow. I can totally get behind the idea of emotional connection, but dearjesusinheaven, FUCK ME. We've done dinner and drinks. We've gone dancing. We've cuddled and watched a movie. You know it. I know it. You're wearing a low cut shirt and I've been staring at your breasts all night. Goodgodalmighty, get to it and fuck me. When we get hot and heavy, please take charge. Please, please fuck me. Trust me, I'm not going to just lie still - I'll get involved. But don't make me force my hand into your panties. It's so BORING if I have to be the one to initiate and escalate all the fucking time. We've been kissing for a half hour and my hand keeps grazing your ass. That's nice, but it's time to move forward. Get on top of me and start bobbing up and down on my cock like its going to be your last time ever... because it is if you don't stop being timid in the bedroom. I'm not going to gently suck your nipples and then pull back when you moan with pleasure. Why? Because that's being coy not what WE want. OK, I know it's scary. There are lots of men out there who make fucking really difficult. Simply because they don't communicate SOME absolutely CRITICAL/VITAL points to you women. What men want the most in bed. So, I have compiled some handy tips. Don't think of this as complaining, or as schadenfreude for the Joe Schmucks of the world. Just some simple tips, for timid girls who have forgotten what it means to fuck like women: 1. Taking charge is not bad. On the contrary, its very... VERY... GOOD. (Or bad depending on how you look at it. *grins* hehe) Oh, there will be some men who won't be able to cope with a true woman. An uninhibited woman. An amazon. They'll feel insecure of your naughtier side. Tell me though... would you like to be with such a man? Deep down, you know that you want to LET GO NOW. To be an absolute slut. Because if you were dating a fucking a real man, he would be more than able to be just as deliciously naughty as you. If you are fucking a man, the best thing you could do is to simply ASK. Ask him what he likes. Give a naughty wink and tell him you'll help him to realise ANY of his fantasies... then give a suggestive smile. If he asks you what brought it on... say...I'm sorry - you just look so fucking delicious. I'll go slower." Then watch as your man's eyes widen in protest. Laugh huskily, and FUCK his brains out! 2. Oh my fucking god, please learn to respect the cock. It's different for every man, so ask what he likes. Do not, I repeat, do not just start clamping on his shaft and pumping away like you're trying to race to see how fast he'll cum. There is a time and a place for pumping hard. Do not squeeze his balls like they're your daily stress balls. Do not misinterpret the word "nibble" for "chew". That is extremely unsexy. Start by grasping his cock with the lightest possible touch to generate friction. Slowly work your grip in as you stroke him softly. Ignore his protests and smile wickedly as you trace his shaft with first your finger, then ur lips, then ... your tongue. There is a time and place for charging in and trying to swallow him whole, and there is also a time to sit back and enjoy looking at the fruits of your labor. If you don't know what to do, just ask. "How do you like it?". It's a simple question, and most men will answer straight out. "Do you like pressure? Is it sensitive?" Treat each one as though you have never encountered one before. Forget everything that your last partner number one advise that I can possibly give to you and which all men out there will agree to is this: The wetter it is, the better. Moisten your mouth. There is nothing more heavenly then a slick, sexy, wet mouthfuck. biggrin 3. Most men are not aware that most women like to be fucked, and fucked well. Society portrays women out there as those who want to "make love" every time - sweet, gentle, rocking love with lots of eye contact and loving kisses. Those women are not the majority. Trust me on this. The majority like to be pounded. The majority like to have their hair pulled. The majority like a good, solid jackhammering. When a woman is bucking wildly against you, it's not because she wants you to pull back and slowly swirl your cock around her vagina like you're mixing a cake batter up there. It's because she wants you to hold down her arms, or grab her hips, or push her legs above her head, and fuck her harder. Ironically, its because society and the mass media portray women in such paltry light that a lot of men these days truly believe that gentle mixing of cake batter is better than wild hard pounding. So my advise to you is this. From the get go, show your man the error of his ways. Hehe. Be EXTRA wild, and be more of a slut, just to prove to him what you like. Afterwards, explain to him that you can also like it slow and lovingly. Then tell him that you'll ask for it that way if you need it. 4. A little roughness is nice. Do not pretend that you had no idea that some men like to pull your hair. Do not act shocked if he wants to spank you ("Really? Spanking? Won't it hurt?" - yes, it does. That's the fucking point). We know you've read Stuff and Maxim, and that's all those manly mags talk about in their "How to Please Her" sections. And we know that for all your bitching about just how trashy lads mags are, they don't even come close to the level of naughtiness of Cosmo and other female interest mags. So go out, buy some stockings and a garter belte back home. Get him all naked on the edge of a bed. Walk into the toilet and change. Walk out. Go towards him and bend over.... slowly... Then squat and go on all fours. You should be sticking your bum out at him while he sits at the side of the bed. Now BEG him to spank you. Start with light, full handed smacks to the area of her ass that you sit on. Tell him to judge your response and continue on from there. Oh, and swear at him. Call him a pussy for hitting like one. Tell him that Women are less delicate than he thinks, so don't worry about breaking your hip. 5. It's OK for you to make noise. Actually this should be on par with number one. Yes, its THAT important to us. Otherwise, we feel like we are fucking a ninja. Unless you actually are a ninja, and have sneaked into our rooms with vibrating nanuchaku and zippered black pajamas, please, please make some noise. If you're banging a man, and he's crying out and saying your name and moaning, and you can't even manage a grunt, he's going to feel like a complete tool. And he won't want to fuck you again. You don't have to make the sounds she is making, but do SOMETHING. You know how when you are watching porn, and the guy does something great to the girl and the girl kind of goes "Ah!", half grunt, half yell? That's HOT. Do that. Whisper our name (assuming you know it) gruffly. Groan against his neck when you're in missionary position or when your cowboying. You don't have to grunt like a mountain gorilla, but if you are totally mute, he's going to get worried. If he ain't exciting you at all, read the other points and try them for fucks sake. 6. Most men like dirty talk, in addition to the moaning. You want us to talk dirty to you right? Well its a two-fucking-way-street. If you'd like to get some dirty talk going, ask him if he likes the way you fuck him. If she responds well, continue with something like, "I love fucking you. God, you look so fucking hot." Is he still moaning and making those hard grunts in response? "Your cock is so...so... *MOAN*" Does that work? Go and collect $200. Then Try the following: "Oh, god. Your cock is SO hard, you're hitting those spots!" "OMG I'm so wet - because I like the feel of your cock ramming my cunt" (If he knows that this is all part of the play and not as a suggestion to do so - unless you really want to try it also) "I want you to come inside me and fill my naughty cunt with your hot juices. Pump my little cunt you bastard." It doesn't matter that he's wearing a condom; we LOVE hearing this. If all of those work, you can then progress to things like "sexy bastard" and "i want to be your dirty whore" and "your cumslut". Tread carefully, but please, tread. Do not tiptoe. Do not sit down. Charge. 6. Do not bitch or talk about ALL your goddamned fears when your man wants to try something new. Especially if its something kinky or risque. Think about what it would be like if you got a complete dud in the bedroom. If your man fucked like a rabbit and lasted all 20 seconds before cumming then snoring. You'd hate that. So why complain when your man wants to try all those devilishly nice new things. Step out of the fucking box for once in your life. Fuck social obligations and constraints. You. Only. Live. Once. 7. We like to come. It's called a money shot for a reason. Watching you watch us semen shoot out of ourselves is one of the most gratifying things EVER. It's part of who we are. Men go down these days on women. Granted 99% of them don't know what the fuck they're doing, but at least they suck it up and try to do it whenever you ask, and then some. For all your straight women out there, do you know the horrors that lurk down there? Our cocks hang out, and for the most part, men tend to wash the area more because its more accessible. When is the last time that you gave a proper washout BETWEEN your inner and outer lips? The things I have seen there! Yet we eat you and we make you cum. Do we stop when you start to come? Just at the start of it? Do we start to gag and spit out your juices? Some of you squirt, and some of you even start to wee. Do we stop? No, we hang on for dear life and keep at that button. How would u feel if a man started gagging and running to the toilet to spit out your juices. Would you feel rejected? Learn to swallow. Learn to love it. After all, we learned to love your scent, and taste. And for all you women out there that think that a man's spunk taste's worse than a woman's juices... think again. In recent memory, I've been fucked by a very aggressive woman and I've been... well, fucked is the wrong term here. I've penetrated a total and dead fish of a timid girl. Who am I going to run back to when I'm ready for my fill? WoManly McHardon, that's who. My Ideal Person: I can't speak for ALL men, but I can certainly speak for myself and my mates - a good blowjob rocks our world like a hurricane but it's such a rare experience. There's just nothing like it. And yet, most women fail at this endeavor. The scary thing is that men are a shitload more discreet than women. We won't ever tell other guys if a woman is shit at giving head. Women on the other hand, will discuss in vivid, explicit detail about all our failures in bed. Funny isnt it? Women who like nothing better than to suck a dick and can do it well.... God bless every one of ya!" ...And lads, if you aren't truly giving a decent effort to slurp her snatch, and aren't making her cum.....well....time to re-evaluate and pray that one of the few men out there who DOES lick pussy well doesn't get to her. Cause if that happens, you'll be kicked to the curb like a football at the superbowl. So girls....we really do want to enjoy sex with you and have the best of intentions....but you gotta step up and do your part. The time has come for men to get ours! Now cowboy the fuck up and learn how to lick us like we've got the antidote to death or the fountain of youth in there. Peace my brothers and sisters! May you all get some good oral sex while you can! P.S.> If you read this all the way to the end... good on u. So tell me what you think about it. PM me. Prove me wrong. =)
Well, well, Interesting post, indeed I am onto my second cuppa already and still not finished reading.. You have raised many interesting points, and indeed , yes, both the female and male members of the site should give them due condiseration. I will be addressing a few myself, but I fear by the time I digest all the said posts,you will have written the sequel already.
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This letter is not meant to be abusive, or offensive to either sex. If you feel that way, please message and I will try to amend/clarify these statements. This is in fact a letter which was written on another site which I transcribed and edited. These thoughts hold true for me and I hope that the men on this site will also pipe up and agree with me. Or disagree. The important thing is that the women out there read this and take notes. Hehe.
Dear Women of Swing4Ireland,
Look, I know you women have it tough. most of the men on personals sites are just about impossible to understand (sorry guys, but I think its true). It can be scary, too, when men you don't know try to freak you you also have the other end of the spectrum. The man-ginas who are always trying to please you by giving you compliments by the dozen, only to get cheap thrills afterwards by TRYING to get your pictures to wank off to.
I am not here for any of that. I respect women for the person that they are. The nurturing aspect of your individuality and your desire to care for others, and to be in a loving relationship. I truly do. But please, stop being so timid already. Honestly, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I like that you want to take things slow. I can totally get behind the idea of emotional connection, but dearjesusinheaven, FUCK ME. We've done dinner and drinks. We've gone dancing. We've cuddled and watched a movie.
You know it.
I know it.
You're wearing a low cut shirt and I've been staring at your breasts all night. Goodgodalmighty, get to it and fuck me.
When we get hot and heavy, please take charge. Please, please fuck me. Trust me, I'm not going to just lie still - I'll get involved. But don't make me force my hand into your panties. It's so BORING if I have to be the one to initiate and escalate all the fucking time. We've been kissing for a half hour and my hand keeps grazing your ass. That's nice, but it's time to move forward. Get on top of me and start bobbing up and down on my cock like its going to be your last time ever... because it is if you don't stop being timid in the bedroom.
I'm not going to gently suck your nipples and then pull back when you moan with pleasure. Why? Because that's being coy not what WE want.
OK, I know it's scary. There are lots of men out there who make fucking really difficult. Simply because they don't communicate SOME absolutely CRITICAL/VITAL points to you women. What men want the most in bed.
So, I have compiled some handy tips. Don't think of this as complaining, or as schadenfreude for the Joe Schmucks of the world. Just some simple tips, for timid girls who have forgotten what it means to fuck like women:
1. Taking charge is not bad. On the contrary, its very... VERY... GOOD. (Or bad depending on how you look at it. *grins* hehe) Oh, there will be some men who won't be able to cope with a true woman. An uninhibited woman. An amazon. They'll feel insecure of your naughtier side. Tell me though... would you like to be with such a man? Deep down, you know that you want to LET GO NOW. To be an absolute slut. Because if you were dating a fucking a real man, he would be more than able to be just as deliciously naughty as you. If you are fucking a man, the best thing you could do is to simply ASK. Ask him what he likes. Give a naughty wink and tell him you'll help him to realise ANY of his fantasies... then give a suggestive smile. If he asks you what brought it on... say...I'm sorry - you just look so fucking delicious. I'll go slower." Then watch as your man's eyes widen in protest. Laugh huskily, and FUCK his brains out!
2. Oh my fucking god, please learn to respect the cock. It's different for every man, so ask what he likes. Do not, I repeat, do not just start clamping on his shaft and pumping away like you're trying to race to see how fast he'll cum. There is a time and a place for pumping hard. Do not squeeze his balls like they're your daily stress balls. Do not misinterpret the word "nibble" for "chew". That is extremely unsexy. Start by grasping his cock with the lightest possible touch to generate friction. Slowly work your grip in as you stroke him softly. Ignore his protests and smile wickedly as you trace his shaft with first your finger, then ur lips, then ... your tongue. There is a time and place for charging in and trying to swallow him whole, and there is also a time to sit back and enjoy looking at the fruits of your labor. If you don't know what to do, just ask. "How do you like it?". It's a simple question, and most men will answer straight out. "Do you like pressure? Is it sensitive?" Treat each one as though you have never encountered one before. Forget everything that your last partner number one advise that I can possibly give to you and which all men out there will agree to is this: The wetter it is, the better. Moisten your mouth. There is nothing more heavenly then a slick, sexy, wet mouthfuck. biggrin
3. Most men are not aware that most women like to be fucked, and fucked well. Society portrays women out there as those who want to "make love" every time - sweet, gentle, rocking love with lots of eye contact and loving kisses. Those women are not the majority. Trust me on this. The majority like to be pounded. The majority like to have their hair pulled. The majority like a good, solid jackhammering. When a woman is bucking wildly against you, it's not because she wants you to pull back and slowly swirl your cock around her vagina like you're mixing a cake batter up there. It's because she wants you to hold down her arms, or grab her hips, or push her legs above her head, and fuck her harder. Ironically, its because society and the mass media portray women in such paltry light that a lot of men these days truly believe that gentle mixing of cake batter is better than wild hard pounding. So my advise to you is this. From the get go, show your man the error of his ways. Hehe. Be EXTRA wild, and be more of a slut, just to prove to him what you like. Afterwards, explain to him that you can also like it slow and lovingly. Then tell him that you'll ask for it that way if you need it.
4. A little roughness is nice. Do not pretend that you had no idea that some men like to pull your hair. Do not act shocked if he wants to spank you ("Really? Spanking? Won't it hurt?" - yes, it does. That's the fucking point). We know you've read Stuff and Maxim, and that's all those manly mags talk about in their "How to Please Her" sections. And we know that for all your bitching about just how trashy lads mags are, they don't even come close to the level of naughtiness of Cosmo and other female interest mags. So go out, buy some stockings and a garter belte back home. Get him all naked on the edge of a bed. Walk into the toilet and change. Walk out. Go towards him and bend over.... slowly... Then squat and go on all fours. You should be sticking your bum out at him while he sits at the side of the bed. Now BEG him to spank you. Start with light, full handed smacks to the area of her ass that you sit on. Tell him to judge your response and continue on from there. Oh, and swear at him. Call him a pussy for hitting like one. Tell him that Women are less delicate than he thinks, so don't worry about breaking your hip.
5. It's OK for you to make noise. Actually this should be on par with number one. Yes, its THAT important to us. Otherwise, we feel like we are fucking a ninja. Unless you actually are a ninja, and have sneaked into our rooms with vibrating nanuchaku and zippered black pajamas, please, please make some noise. If you're banging a man, and he's crying out and saying your name and moaning, and you can't even manage a grunt, he's going to feel like a complete tool. And he won't want to fuck you again. You don't have to make the sounds she is making, but do SOMETHING. You know how when you are watching porn, and the guy does something great to the girl and the girl kind of goes "Ah!", half grunt, half yell? That's HOT. Do that. Whisper our name (assuming you know it) gruffly. Groan against his neck when you're in missionary position or when your cowboying. You don't have to grunt like a mountain gorilla, but if you are totally mute, he's going to get worried. If he ain't exciting you at all, read the other points and try them for fucks sake.
6. Most men like dirty talk, in addition to the moaning. You want us to talk dirty to you right? Well its a two-fucking-way-street. If you'd like to get some dirty talk going, ask him if he likes the way you fuck him. If she responds well, continue with something like, "I love fucking you. God, you look so fucking hot." Is he still moaning and making those hard grunts in response? "Your cock is so...so... *MOAN*" Does that work? Go and collect $200. Then Try the following:
"Oh, god. Your cock is SO hard, you're hitting those spots!"
"OMG I'm so wet - because I like the feel of your cock ramming my cunt"
(If he knows that this is all part of the play and not as a suggestion to do so - unless you really want to try it also)
"I want you to come inside me and fill my naughty cunt with your hot juices. Pump my little cunt you bastard." It doesn't matter that he's wearing a condom; we LOVE hearing this.
If all of those work, you can then progress to things like "sexy bastard" and "i want to be your dirty whore" and "your cumslut". Tread carefully, but please, tread. Do not tiptoe. Do not sit down. Charge.
6. Do not bitch or talk about ALL your goddamned fears when your man wants to try something new. Especially if its something kinky or risque. Think about what it would be like if you got a complete dud in the bedroom. If your man fucked like a rabbit and lasted all 20 seconds before cumming then snoring. You'd hate that. So why complain when your man wants to try all those devilishly nice new things. Step out of the fucking box for once in your life. Fuck social obligations and constraints. You. Only. Live. Once.
7. We like to come. It's called a money shot for a reason. Watching you watch us semen shoot out of ourselves is one of the most gratifying things EVER. It's part of who we are. Men go down these days on women. Granted 99% of them don't know what the fuck they're doing, but at least they suck it up and try to do it whenever you ask, and then some. For all your straight women out there, do you know the horrors that lurk down there? Our cocks hang out, and for the most part, men tend to wash the area more because its more accessible. When is the last time that you gave a proper washout BETWEEN your inner and outer lips? The things I have seen there! Yet we eat you and we make you cum. Do we stop when you start to come? Just at the start of it? Do we start to gag and spit out your juices? Some of you squirt, and some of you even start to wee. Do we stop? No, we hang on for dear life and keep at that button. How would u feel if a man started gagging and running to the toilet to spit out your juices. Would you feel rejected? Learn to swallow. Learn to love it. After all, we learned to love your scent, and taste. And for all you women out there that think that a man's spunk taste's worse than a woman's juices... think again.
In recent memory, I've been fucked by a very aggressive woman and I've been... well, fucked is the wrong term here. I've penetrated a total and dead fish of a timid girl. Who am I going to run back to when I'm ready for my fill? WoManly McHardon, that's who.
My Ideal Person:
I can't speak for ALL men, but I can certainly speak for myself and my mates - a good blowjob rocks our world like a hurricane but it's such a rare experience. There's just nothing like it. And yet, most women fail at this endeavor. The scary thing is that men are a shitload more discreet than women. We won't ever tell other guys if a woman is shit at giving head. Women on the other hand, will discuss in vivid, explicit detail about all our failures in bed. Funny isnt it? Women who like nothing better than to suck a dick and can do it well.... God bless every one of ya!" ...And lads, if you aren't truly giving a decent effort to slurp her snatch, and aren't making her cum.....well....time to re-evaluate and pray that one of the few men out there who DOES lick pussy well doesn't get to her. Cause if that happens, you'll be kicked to the curb like a football at the superbowl.
So girls....we really do want to enjoy sex with you and have the best of intentions....but you gotta step up and do your part. The time has come for men to get ours! Now cowboy the fuck up and learn how to lick us like we've got the antidote to death or the fountain of youth in there.
Peace my brothers and sisters!
May you all get some good oral sex while you can!
P.S.> If you read this all the way to the end... good on u. So tell me what you think about it. PM me. Prove me wrong. =)

You want the woman to do the work and take control and you sound hate "BOTH".
Women hate a guy thats desperate and they espeicially hate a guy that wants them to do the moves and take the love a guy that takes control of the intimacy,they like a man to be a man,you know thats whats supposed to seperate men from women.I could go on all day and im not.
Now i read this,
most of the men on personals sites are just about impossible to understand (sorry guys, but I think its true)
And then read your post
Thank god im taking a break,
Westside.
1. Taking charge is not bad. On the contrary, its very... VERY... GOOD. (Or bad depending on how you look at it. *grins* hehe) Oh, there will be some men who won't be able to cope with a true woman. An uninhibited woman. An amazon. They'll feel insecure of your naughtier side. Tell me though... would you like to be with such a man? Deep down, you know that you want to LET GO NOW. To be an absolute slut. Because if you were dating a fucking a real man, he would be more than able to be just as deliciously naughty as you. If you are fucking a man, the best thing you could do is to simply ASK. Ask him what he likes. Give a naughty wink and tell him you'll help him to realise ANY of his fantasies... then give a suggestive smile. If he asks you what brought it on... say...I'm sorry - you just look so fucking delicious. I'll go slower." Then watch as your man's eyes widen in protest. Laugh huskily, and FUCK his brains out
Now it seems that you are mixing up a woman who is in touch with her sexuality and a porn star!
This first point reads like a scene from Debbie does Dallas, just love the idea of the suggestive wink! As the woman lies back , giggles seductively and whimpers, "Go boy , fuck my brains out, your so god damn hot, I may just have died, wet my pants and gone to heaven"
Few seconds later.. "On your back cow-boy I am so god damn hot, I am going to blow your mind"...
You should be writing scripts for porno movies..
In the real world, most meets take place either A After a few mails, phone calls or B Spontaneously..
Now if it is A then communication is the key, both parties sharing sexual preferences, ideas, fantasies ect..ect...
If B ..Then pot luck really,you either connect or you don't, many men don't get the idea of a woman who feels free enough to guide or educate in some cases, and equaly many women do not enjoy the "go-girl fuck me silly approach"...
. Oh my fucking god, please learn to respect the cock. It's different for every man, so ask what he likes. Do not, I repeat, do not just start clamping on his shaft and pumping away like you're trying to race to see how fast he'll cum. There is a time and a place for pumping hard. Do not squeeze his balls like they're your daily stress balls. Do not misinterpret the word "nibble" for "chew". That is extremely unsexy. Start by grasping his cock with the lightest possible touch to generate friction. Slowly work your grip in as you stroke him softly. Ignore his protests and smile wickedly as you trace his shaft with first your finger, then ur lips, then ... your tongue. There is a time and place for charging in and trying to swallow him whole, and there is also a time to sit back and enjoy looking at the fruits of your labor. If you don't know what to do, just ask. "How do you like it?". It's a simple question, and most men will answer straight out. "Do you like pressure? Is it sensitive?" Treat each one as though you have never encountered one before. Forget everything that your last partner number one advise that I can possibly give to you and which all men out there will agree to is this: The wetter it is, the better. Moisten your mouth. There is nothing more heavenly then a slick, sexy, wet mouthfuck.
Two broken finger nails later.......
Hello is this the new manual for good all round instant success for giving BJ's????
Is this one solution fits all cocks?
Respecting a cock any cock begins with understanding and respecting, the head above the cock!
Back to smiling wickedly again, so women are too ask lots of questions , take instructions and all the while fluttering our eye-lashes, grinning like eejits, winking on and off??
Of course there should be mental and verbal give and take, but omfg!!! what a picture you paint, women told to get down there and do it properly, but again like a feckin porn star....
and all the time refering to the one mouth fits all cock manual, gee whizz, I must have been doing it soooooooooooooooo wrong..weeps with shame!..not!
:wank:As for your subsequent points, If you are happy to wait a few days I am sure I will get around to addressing them all, I just need to get over the shock, that I am not a porno star, and shall no doubt fail miserably in the future...
loonhmmmmmmmmmm this thread has a very strange ring to it dont be fooled into feeding the deluded mind off the sad author , have a feeling its someone working undercover for ,berties secret service ,he hasnt gone away ye know
:evil2:
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loonhmmmmmmmmmm this thread has a very strange ring to it dont be fooled into feeding the deluded mind off the sad author , have a feeling its someone working undercover for ,berties secret service ,he hasnt gone away ye know

You could be onto something!!!
Sucessful buisness man, makes women cum with one word, and still only 25, hold on how does one spell figgered??
rolleyestheres no such thing as a bad blowjob! :grin:theres ,average blowjobs :lick:theres, good blowjobs :thumbup::thumbup:and theres, oh my god dont stop you hornbox, i want to stay like this forever because this is the best god damn blowjob ever, and when i cum i will probably cum forever,and i will show you how much i appreciate it by doing whatever you want ,i havent been this hard since i was a teenager,this is better than any movie, your better than any porn star, you know how to worship my cock, etc..... you get the jist.
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Now it seems that you are mixing up a woman who is in touch with her sexuality and a porn star!
This first point reads like a scene from Debbie does Dallas, just love the idea of the suggestive wink! As the woman lies back , giggles seductively and whimpers, "Go boy , fuck my brains out, your so god damn hot, I may just have died, wet my pants and gone to heaven"
Few seconds later.. "On your back cow-boy I am so god damn hot, I am going to blow your mind"...
You should be writing scripts for porno movies..
In the real world, most meets take place either A After a few mails, phone calls or B Spontaneously..
Now if it is A then communication is the key, both parties sharing sexual preferences, ideas, fantasies ect..ect...
If B ..Then pot luck really,you either connect or you don't, many men don't get the idea of a woman who feels free enough to guide or educate in some cases, and equaly many women do not enjoy the "go-girl fuck me silly approach"...

Hi addiesfun, thanks for replying and thanks for giving me a proper reply.
These tips I actually wrote for people who are in a relationship with each other. Granted they can be used for people that meet up with each other randomly, but you indeed right - most people who just meet up for the random shag will never be confortable enough around each other to have a right good go at it. And more's the pity obviously.
I'm not saying that it has to be all theatrical or played out. Instead. I suggest that sex should be FUN. Not just loving and serious, but also FUN. It shouldnt just be about making love etc. but also about fucking and getting your rocks off. Society these days tends to forget that a lot. Hollywood and rom com's don't exactly do much to help dissuade that notion.
Anyway, if you want a truly honest opinion about it, try asking a bloke out there who is your friend. Ask him to read it and ask him if he agrees with what I wrote. Ask him if he would like it if the person he loves/is fucking did those suggestions that I gave. See his reaction. Verbal and non verbal cues as well. I do admit that my long diatribe may as come off as a chauvinistic cum desperate male trying to get his rocks off, but I truly believe that if women (AND MEN) were to let go of their inhibitions in the bedroom etc, that things would be a lot better for both parties - in and outside of the bedroom. Just my two cents really.
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You want the woman to do the work and take control and you sound hate "BOTH".
Women hate a guy thats desperate and they espeicially hate a guy that wants them to do the moves and take the love a guy that takes control of the intimacy,they like a man to be a man,you know thats whats supposed to seperate men from women.I could go on all day and im not.

Dear Westside. I assure you that I am very very. VERY desperate. Lol. In fact, I'm so desperate that I want you to DO ME NOW. Lol. Hehe. Just kidding. In all honesty, I think that you may have misunderstood the purpose of the letter which I wrote. In retrospect, after rereading it, I suppose it was a tad bit OTT. What I was trying to aim for was to try and to tell women to take control SOME OF THE TIME AT LEAST. I am just ... I guess fed up of ALWAYS having to take control. Always having to initiate. Always being the one to escalate. You have to admit, that if you had to do something repetitively yourself, that you would get bored of it too.
I love being in control in the bedroom, and i love taking control of my woman and showing her what what its like to be a woman. The flipside of it is that it would be nice indeed to have some variety sometimes and to have the woman initiate and dominate also. Even if both parties KNOW that its only the facade of the woman being the agressor, trust me when I say that it'll be HOT. Also, it takes a man to admit that he doesn't mind a woman taking the lead for a change. A man who always NEEDS to be in charge is one who has issues deep down. Learn to let go. =)
Once again, I hope that I have not overstepped my bounds in any way. If I have said or done anything to offend anyone, then I apologise. These are my thoughts and my opinions. Still though, ask your friends who are male about what they think about what I wrote.
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Two broken finger nails later.......
Hello is this the new manual for good all round instant success for giving BJ's????
Is this one solution fits all cocks?
Respecting a cock any cock begins with understanding and respecting, the head above the cock!
Back to smiling wickedly again, so women are too ask lots of questions , take instructions and all the while fluttering our eye-lashes, grinning like eejits, winking on and off??
Of course there should be mental and verbal give and take, but omfg!!! what a picture you paint, women told to get down there and do it properly, but again like a feckin porn star....
and all the time refering to the one mouth fits all cock manual, gee whizz, I must have been doing it soooooooooooooooo wrong..weeps with shame!..not!

Whoa whoa whoa! Get your flame on! Achtung! Lol. Chill babes. Like I said at the very beginning of it all, those were MY opinions. And I totally agree with youPLETELY. One needs to first understand the inner psyche of the man over the cock. Unless the man is a dick. In which case....hehe. But I digress.. I am curious though, as to why you associate a naughty look with being in a porno/ or being a pornstar. And no I did not mean it as a one mouth fits all manual either. No need to be acerbic ehhehe. As I already said earlier. Don't knock on it till you've tried it. What can it hurt to try it just once. See how your man enjoys it. If he hates it then im wrong. If I'm right though.....
As I have already said, these are my opinions and my thoughts. If I have overstepped my bounds and offended any of the women on this site, then... so be it! Haha. Honestly, I apologise if you feel that I have offended you. But I still entreat you to try what I've said at least once. and to try it properly without making a mockery of it. After all, if it works, more power to you! You'll have your man eating out of the palm of your... err... (insert appropriate body part here) haha.
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rolleyestheres no such thing as a bad blowjob!
:grin:theres ,average blowjobs
:lick:theres, good blowjobs
:thumbup::thumbup:and theres, oh my god dont stop you hornbox, i want to stay like this forever because this is the best god damn blowjob ever, and when i cum i will probably cum forever,and i will show you how much i appreciate it by doing whatever you want ,i havent been this hard since i was a teenager,this is better than any movie, your better than any porn star, you know how to worship my cock, etc.....
you get the jist.

What can I say... I concur. There ain't no such thing as a bad bj. Not really anyway. There's average and there's OMFG IM GOING TO ARGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Ahem.
Oh, and don't knock on Erotic hypnosis till any of you have tried it either. It's so strange how people tend to write off things before they have even tried em. It works. Although I will admit that you will need to be with someone you trust for it to work.
Anyway, addiesfun, I thank you for your input, and wish you all the successes in your current and future endeavours. Once again all, if you were offended by what I said, then I apologize.
P.S. I would like to hear back from the males on this site. Do any of YOU agree with what I said?
Hi addiesfun, thanks for replying and thanks for giving me a proper reply.
These tips I actually wrote for people who are in a relationship with each other. Granted they can be used for people that meet up with each other randomly, but you indeed right - most people who just meet up for the random shag will never be confortable enough around each other to have a right good go at it. And more's the pity obviously.
Sorry CorkRebel, but I do not buy into this, I suspect this staetment was damage limitation,firstly because I think you would have been smart enough to have put that into your introduction, and secondly, I imagine you were expecting, a shit load of mail in your inbox from desperate ladies trying to prove we know how to give a good BJ...
But fair paly to you for coming back to explain properly your opinions, if it is true and you believe that it is possible for women and men to have fun and not just mechanical sex, then drop the god awful blaming the women..
You were shrewd enough to keep this out of your introduction, however in your points, the over riding blame in your opinion falls on women..
Now I will take onboard your asking me to seek the opinion of a long term Fb, it will be interesting to see how he feels..
On your point of me getting inflamed about Porno stars and your kind hints re winking seductively, your whole post smacks of I WANT, I WANT!!!!! I WANT!!!!...
Sex or good sex is longer the little lady lying on her back, feeling grateful for a fuck,needing to please the guy but not herself,it is or should in any circumstances the sharing of the sexual act, both physicaly and mentaly and of course should be fun, isn't that what fantasies and acting them out are??
PS Am going to lay a bet here Rebel, have known my FB for years, and I can almost guarantee his view will be that guy needs a good Bj, which honestly with what is in your profile I doubt you will achieve..
But good luck , as you wished me, I admire anyone who can argue their point, and have the decency to aplogise for making women feel like shit..
You are still very young(if you are 25) your writing style suggestes older, aplogies if I am wrong, and your original post should throw up a great debate..
wonderful post...read it all, and totally enjoyed it.....refreshing..to say the least. and plenty of truth there...giz your phone number ....
Damn! My initial reply to you got deleted because the browser timed out and logged out. Grrr... So I have to retype all this from memory. Hopefully I manage to get all my points across to you.
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Sorry CorkRebel, but I do not buy into this, I suspect this staetment was damage limitation,firstly because I think you would have been smart enough to have put that into your introduction, and secondly, I imagine you were expecting, a shit load of mail in your inbox from desperate ladies trying to prove we know how to give a good BJ...

*raises eyebrow amusedly* Damage Limitation? Hehe. Dear lady, you DO make me smile. Granted I think I sort of can see where you are coming from but I can truly assure you, its nothing of the sort. Nevermind that the majority of the users of this site are mare (I would say about 60% male, 20%female, and 10%female)... the chances are probably in favour of random gay men sending me mails asking if they could give me bj's! Hehe. (NO offense to the non straight men on the site! Sorry lads I only swing one way haha) Furthermore, why on earth would I need to put damage limitation on a site where I dont even know anyone from real life?
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But fair paly to you for coming back to explain properly your opinions, if it is true and you believe that it is possible for women and men to have fun and not just mechanical sex, then drop the god awful blaming the women..
You were shrewd enough to keep this out of your introduction, however in your points, the over riding blame in your opinion falls on women..
Now I will take onboard your asking me to seek the opinion of a long term Fb, it will be interesting to see how he feels..

As I already said earlier, If I could ammend the tone of the inital post that I made, I would. I simply do not know how to edit the inital post. I do not see any "edit post" button. I find this extremely strange because I know that the forum is using a Vbulletin or PunBB type forum software to run the backend. (For the unintiated - These are different types of forum software). So I'm finding it quite frustrating indeed that I cannot even edit my posts for the various typos etc.
I THINK I NEED TO CAPITALISE ALL THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN. WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WOMEN WOULD BE THE AGRESSORS IN THE BEDROOM SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES. AND THEN I PROCEEDED TO EXPLAIN JUST WHAT SAID WOMEN COULD DO TO BECOME THE AGRESSORS. SOMETIMES.
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On your point of me getting inflamed about Porno stars and your kind hints re winking seductively, your whole post smacks of I WANT, I WANT!!!!! I WANT!!!!... Sex or good sex is longer the little lady lying on her back, feeling grateful for a fuck,needing to please the guy but not herself,it is or should in any circumstances the sharing of the sexual act, both physicaly and mentaly and of course should be fun, isn't that what fantasies and acting them out are??

I COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY AGREE WITH YOU. Good sex is no longer about the woman being there to simply please the man. And I WOULDN'T have it any other way. NO WAY. That was what my post was about if you think about it. I DONT WANT the woman to be there. I WANT THE WOMAN TO BE THE AGRESSOR. I would absolutely hate it if a woman just lay there on her back to gratify me. Yuck. I think... no... i KNOW i couldn't get wood. Thats WHY i wrote the initial post. I meant it also as a call to arms of sorts. To let the women out there know that men don't want them to just lie there like dead fish. We want them as agressors also. Perhaps I fell QUITE FAR from my goal. Time to pick my ass up, dust my black hat and fedora... and keep going at it I suppose.
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PS Am going to lay a bet here Rebel, have known my FB for years, and I can almost guarantee his view will be that guy needs a good Bj, which honestly with what is in your profile I doubt you will achieve..
But good luck , as you wished me, I admire anyone who can argue their point, and have the decency to aplogise for making women feel like shit..

All I can say in my defense is that you should give your FB my post to read, and all subsequent replies that I have also made. And see what he says. Perhaps you are right. Perhaps he will say that I need a good seeing to. Then again he may agree with me. Furthermore, I noted something quite interesting. My intention was never to make anyone feel like shit.I generalised the whole post from start to finish. I never once mentioned any person's name. Besides, Why would I need to make completely random people that I do not know feel like shit? If you read about psychological profiling you will see that even psychopaths and sociopaths only make people the know personally feel like shit. There is no gain from making a complete stranger feel like shit. That would make me the written equivalent of a drive by. Haha.
That is why I do not understand the partial hostility emanating from your posts. I am curious as to why you are personalising the issue (You mentioned in an earlier post that you felt like a failure) Perhaps you could question yourself to see why my post bothered you as much as it did? Once again, I apologise if you feel that I am belittling the fairer sex or you personally. (Which i'm not)
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You are still very young(if you are 25) your writing style suggestes older, aplogies if I am wrong, and your original post should throw up a great debate..

I will take the statement about my writing style as a compliment, although I do feel that my "writing style" needs a lot more polishing up as I did not seem to elucidate my points clearly enough. I suppose that the open letter needs to be edited somewhat to clarify said issues. As it stands, I don't know if it will throw up great debate... the current weather trends suggests that its going to be one big flaming storm! Haha!
Either way, all I can say is that I have been congruent with my beliefs and I still belief that it would be great for women to be the agressors in the bedroom (sometimes). Forget all that come hither lay on your back be coy bullcrap. Put on that football helmet. Charge. I know I sure as hell wouldnt have it any other damned way.
Age is only a determinant of maturity in relationships when people go through the same amount of relationship in a set period of time. For a person who has been dating from an earlier age or for someone who has dated a different subsets of women, the rules do not apply. The proof is merely in the fact that i KNOW what I want in a woman. And I am willing to go after it. After all, we only get to live once. Might as well jump out balls first right?! biggrin
But I digress....
Once again, all I can say is that it was quite a pleasure being able to discuss this with you, regardless our difference in opinions. It is a rare enough moment when I get the chance to truly have a conversation like this with anyone. I do not know if you realise it, but just how many REAL conversation about relationships and sex have you had on this site? =)
Oh and another thing. All jibes made were made in earnest banter and nothing more. Please do not take offense. Ii am the messer and you the messee!
And now dear lady ....I bid you adieu. Thanks for putting a smile on my face.
P.S. Please let me know if you have any further urge to "correct" my poor understanding of the fairer sex! Hehe. *Lascivous smile*
P.P.S Let me know if you know/figure out how to edit posts. If nothing else, all the typos in my posts are annoying the hell out of me. Your typos too! Hehe.
P.P.P.S. Let me know how that conversation with your fb turns out. PM me.
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wonderful post...read it all, and totally enjoyed it.....refreshing..to say the least. and plenty of truth there...giz your phone number ....

Hey Avalon! Cheers! Nice to see another person here and glad you appreciate my call to arms for all women out there! Hehe. Why don't you add some tips of your own for all the men and women out there?
I bet you could show us all a trick or three! *wiggles eyebrows* Lol.
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sooooooo enjoyed that.
u rasied some very valid 3 in your list have to agree with u 100 per women do prefer a good pounding to the 'is this ok for you hunni ?? am i hurting you....etc' not that slow gentle lovemaking doesnt have its place!!!
im now hoping i wont be overly thinking the next bj my lover gets!!!!!!
having sed dat im definitely gona take on board some of the things you posted.
you can expect a mail from my man thanking you,,,,,i hope!!!!!!
lovebird
xx

Hey Lovebird! Love ya nickname! Haha.
I'm actually surprised that you admitted that no.3 is the most important one for you. A lot of women would have admitted to the others but not to no.3 even though I feel its quite important. I'm assuming you do too? biggrin
Grated that there is a time and place for slow making love etc. But a good solid session with you up against the wall of the house... you KNOW you'd like that. *wink nudge* hehe.
PM Me letting me know just how that next bj session with your lover went!
In fact, ask him to post to this thread with his own advise too! That way we can all contribute for the betterment of women everywhere! Heee.
Cheers and enjoy your new found confidence. Revel in it.
-CorkRebel-
Well, well The CorkRebel named himself well, fair dues to you on that last post... Some interesting reading, and yes I agree it is refreshing to discuss topics such as this without a screaming match.. Okay Rebel,your post was duly shown to FB or rather he looked at it from afar.. His intial reaction; Fair fucks to the guy!! But lol....He could have kept it shorter, wrecked his eyes! Anyway he is a few years older than yourself, but agrees, there is not enough communication between sexes.. Included himself in that, however he did raise a valid point, sexual maturity and being able to communicate your wants and desires, developes over a period of years.. Some younger guys and girls, do find it easy, but most gain it through sexual experiences.. He finished up by saying "The Rebel needs a damn good BJ"... Now while I agree with many of your points,I still think A. You would appeal to the younger age group, because they will see you as some sort of sexual maverick.. And B.. All the world loves the eejit.. I am still not convinced you are only 25, your construction of sentences is excellent, then you throw in typos, refering to them, and I think you deliberately spell some words wrong to throw readers of the scent, again if I am wrong I aplogise.. I don't think at this stage you should change the title, it has thrown up a great debate, and If I was in a pub discussing with you, I imagine the craic would be good... note on failure.. I do not and never have felt a failure,I was refering, to the tone of your original post and the fact you shifted the blame cunningly to the so called fairer sex.. No one imo fails at sex, it is and always will be a learning curve, yes we may regret the person involved, but we still learn from the act itself.. As for discussing sexual issues online, yes I have been lucky with you, but I prefer to do it in person and private, and have again been lucky to do and share ideas and experiences.
Too bloody long to read...
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Too bloody long to read...

Ah don't be so feckin lazy, a lot of interesting new ideas and revalations in there......
Hey,,I have a job to do here,,ok..And I have a house,and kids to look after. Your looking for a spanking woman,,,,,Careful now!! pmsl...
Please stay on topic, the original OP only glanced over spanking,very lightly, and anyway it is a Bank Holiday here, and I can multitaskboink
Also fantastic here at multi-tasking. Just not on the computer!! poke
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Also fantastic here at multi-tasking.
Just not on the computer!!
You know, if we keep going there will soon be a page two, scrolling down this page is not good for the eyes..
Back on topic...
Mulitasking using a PC, come on don't pretend you haven't done it...
poke
Well,,I just don't count it,,As i'm so good at it. Usually have a few different windows open at the same time. Trying to type,and search profiles at the same time as well.. All this while probably cooking dinner.. Not bad for a guy huh???
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Well,,I just don't count it,,As i'm so good at it. Usually have a few different windows open at the same time. Trying to type,and search profiles at the same time as well..
All this while probably cooking dinner..
Not bad for a guy huh???

Ah , but all this, while you wink, giggle, twirl your hair with come to bed eyes??
Well,I don't have enough hair to twirl..Not bald,,I just keep it short.. Hmmmmm,Who told you about my eyes?? Now I'm curious..:dry:
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Well,I don't have enough hair to twirl..Not bald,,I just keep it short..
Hmmmmm,Who told you about my eyes?? Now I'm curious..:dry:

Back on topic...avoiding having to disclose informant..
6. Most men like dirty talk, in addition to the moaning. You want us to talk dirty to you right? Well its a two-fucking-way-street. If you'd like to get some dirty talk going, ask him if he likes the way you fuck him. If she responds well, continue with something like, "I love fucking you. God, you look so fucking hot." Is he still moaning and making those hard grunts in response? "Your cock is so...so... *MOAN*" Does that work? Go and collect $200. Then Try the following:
What is your learned opinion on this...
Please god ans, page two is dawning!!!!!
I'm bailing from this post.. I refuse to read the main topic! It's too long...
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I'm bailing from this post.. I refuse to read the main topic!
It's too long...

I broke it down for you..weeps uncontrobably.....
You could always start a new post??
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You could always start a new post??

You just hit page two, thank you there is a godworship